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Confirm or Deny: D&D4e would be going strong had it not been titled D&D
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6601138" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>This is more or less a fair depiction of...many of my problems with 5e, yes. (Well, that and the return of casters getting more, better, and more varied tools than non-casters, and the return of intentional obscurantism and misleading class/option descriptions.)</p><p></p><p>That is: most people seem to be perfectly okay with the idea that a character defined by having Maneuvers (or casting spells, for the Warlock) may go 2-3 combats a day (roughly a third of a day's worth) without having *any* available to use. That boggles my mind. If I signed up to cast spells or employ maneuvers, I wanna cast spells or employ maneuvers, dammit! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> It's one thing if you dabble (pick up a feat, multiclass, etc.), because that's explicitly adding just a dash of that stuff. Like ordering an entree, and choosing to get a single egg roll as a side. You're not there for the egg roll, so it's okay that it's not the main part of the dish--though you will still enjoy eating it. It just seems to me that certain classes' "entrees" are so small that you run out before everyone else has finished eating, yet you're paying exactly the same "price" everyone else is.</p><p></p><p>....if you can't tell, I'm hungry and considering my options for dinner tonight. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6601138, member: 6790260"] This is more or less a fair depiction of...many of my problems with 5e, yes. (Well, that and the return of casters getting more, better, and more varied tools than non-casters, and the return of intentional obscurantism and misleading class/option descriptions.) That is: most people seem to be perfectly okay with the idea that a character defined by having Maneuvers (or casting spells, for the Warlock) may go 2-3 combats a day (roughly a third of a day's worth) without having *any* available to use. That boggles my mind. If I signed up to cast spells or employ maneuvers, I wanna cast spells or employ maneuvers, dammit! :P It's one thing if you dabble (pick up a feat, multiclass, etc.), because that's explicitly adding just a dash of that stuff. Like ordering an entree, and choosing to get a single egg roll as a side. You're not there for the egg roll, so it's okay that it's not the main part of the dish--though you will still enjoy eating it. It just seems to me that certain classes' "entrees" are so small that you run out before everyone else has finished eating, yet you're paying exactly the same "price" everyone else is. ....if you can't tell, I'm hungry and considering my options for dinner tonight. :P [/QUOTE]
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