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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6603238" data-attributes="member: 42582">4e doesn't have &quot;real damage, hurt, end of story&quot; - at least not by default. (Plenty of people have houseruled such things in.) That is, unless a character dies.So (absent houseruling) it doesn't have that &quot;out of mojo but still in combat&quot; phase that you're describing.That's one of the ways it stays true to D&amp;D tradition, and differs from grittier systems (the ones I know best are RuneQuest, Rolemaster and Burning Wheel).I've never really tried to get into the &quot;hit points as meat, hit point restoration as (literal) regeneration&quot; mindset - eg I don't really see how it's meant to fit with natural healing of the sort that D&amp;D has always had (no one can &quot;rest a hand back on&quot; anymore than s/he can &quot;shout a hand back on&quot;). But if someone was into that approach to hp, then I think 4e would grate (at the least).Personally, I don't really feel there is any ambiguity. What I like about the recovery treatment are the factors I mentioned above - it emphasises being inspired, reinvogorated, etc, which I think fits with a non-gritty/Arthurian/romantic fantasy approach.In Savage Worlds, can you regain bennies from other characters inspiring you? My understanding is that they are mostly earned via roleplay, but I don't know the system very well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6603238, member: 42582"] 4e doesn't have "real damage, hurt, end of story" - at least not by default. (Plenty of people have houseruled such things in.) That is, unless a character dies. So (absent houseruling) it doesn't have that "out of mojo but still in combat" phase that you're describing. That's one of the ways it stays true to D&D tradition, and differs from grittier systems (the ones I know best are RuneQuest, Rolemaster and Burning Wheel). I've never really tried to get into the "hit points as meat, hit point restoration as (literal) regeneration" mindset - eg I don't really see how it's meant to fit with natural healing of the sort that D&D has always had (no one can "rest a hand back on" anymore than s/he can "shout a hand back on"). But if someone was into that approach to hp, then I think 4e would grate (at the least). Personally, I don't really feel there is any ambiguity. What I like about the recovery treatment are the factors I mentioned above - it emphasises being inspired, reinvogorated, etc, which I think fits with a non-gritty/Arthurian/romantic fantasy approach. In Savage Worlds, can you regain bennies from other characters inspiring you? My understanding is that they are mostly earned via roleplay, but I don't know the system very well. [/QUOTE]

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