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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 4059049" data-attributes="member: 15999"><p>So they go by proximity?  Doesn't matter if certain of the enemies have attacked them and other haven't?  Okay, it sounds like your gaming group has agreed on a house rule for how summoned creatures will act.  That's your perogative.  At least you have some definition rather than "they do whatever the PC wants them to do regardless of ability to communicate."</p><p></p><p></p><p>This has been debated before on the rules boards.  Look it up.  "Third, the spell prevents bodily contact by summoned creatures. This causes the natural weapon attacks of such creatures to fail and the creatures to recoil if such attacks require touching the warded creature. Good summoned creatures are immune to this effect. The protection against contact by summoned creatures ends if the warded creature makes an attack against or tries to force the barrier against the blocked creature. Spell resistance can allow a creature to overcome this protection and touch the warded creature."</p><p></p><p>Prot Evil keeps both neutral and evil creatures from making bodily contact.</p><p>Prot Good is "like protection from evil... and good summoned creatures cannot touch the subject."</p><p>Does that mean it protects from neutral, evil, AND good creatures?  Or is the "neutral and evil" of Prot Evil replaced with just plain "good" in Prot Good, which would make it a less powerful spell than Prot Evil?  Which is your reading?</p><p>If so, that dragon would be wise to use Prot Evil, since that will keep the neutral creatures at bay.  </p><p>I go with an "apparent intent of the rules despite the poor wording" and interpret it as "Neutral and Good creatures cannot touch the subject."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 4059049, member: 15999"] So they go by proximity? Doesn't matter if certain of the enemies have attacked them and other haven't? Okay, it sounds like your gaming group has agreed on a house rule for how summoned creatures will act. That's your perogative. At least you have some definition rather than "they do whatever the PC wants them to do regardless of ability to communicate." This has been debated before on the rules boards. Look it up. "Third, the spell prevents bodily contact by summoned creatures. This causes the natural weapon attacks of such creatures to fail and the creatures to recoil if such attacks require touching the warded creature. Good summoned creatures are immune to this effect. The protection against contact by summoned creatures ends if the warded creature makes an attack against or tries to force the barrier against the blocked creature. Spell resistance can allow a creature to overcome this protection and touch the warded creature." Prot Evil keeps both neutral and evil creatures from making bodily contact. Prot Good is "like protection from evil... and good summoned creatures cannot touch the subject." Does that mean it protects from neutral, evil, AND good creatures? Or is the "neutral and evil" of Prot Evil replaced with just plain "good" in Prot Good, which would make it a less powerful spell than Prot Evil? Which is your reading? If so, that dragon would be wise to use Prot Evil, since that will keep the neutral creatures at bay. I go with an "apparent intent of the rules despite the poor wording" and interpret it as "Neutral and Good creatures cannot touch the subject." [/QUOTE]
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