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Confirmed: Magic items and summoned monster stats in PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4059244" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>I personally don't even make my PCs track their ammunition or rations, so I can't imagine having to keep track of what the PC's items are, much less track their animals or summoned monsters.</p><p></p><p>As for "Equipping"... Look.</p><p></p><p>Any time a DM has said, "We're starting at level 5" (or whatever over level 1), you know what I had to do? 1) Go to the DMG and look up the point-buy mechanic. 2) Go to the DMG and look up the wealth-per-level so I know how much wealth I have to build the character. 3) Go the DMG and pick out the magical items my character has. </p><p></p><p>All that is being done is putting all that crap in the PHB, instead of the DMG.</p><p></p><p>I've always seen the pricetag on magical items not as an actual pricetag, so much as a level indication when you should get it. +2 weapon is affordable and not out of reason around level 8, etc. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise, in the game where my PC starts at level 5, I don't really see him walking into Joe's Magical Emporium and dropping 5,000gp to stock up on magical equipment right before he meets up with the other characters. Those are just items he got in his travels. It's no different, to me, than a mage picking the spells in his book up to the first session of the game. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise, I have to go through the character creation process, let the DM see my character sheet, and then ask, "Can you give me magical items now for my level?" </p><p></p><p>Is that what is preferred? Asking the GM what magical equipment you have <em>before you even sit down at the table</em>?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 4059244, member: 54846"] I personally don't even make my PCs track their ammunition or rations, so I can't imagine having to keep track of what the PC's items are, much less track their animals or summoned monsters. As for "Equipping"... Look. Any time a DM has said, "We're starting at level 5" (or whatever over level 1), you know what I had to do? 1) Go to the DMG and look up the point-buy mechanic. 2) Go to the DMG and look up the wealth-per-level so I know how much wealth I have to build the character. 3) Go the DMG and pick out the magical items my character has. All that is being done is putting all that crap in the PHB, instead of the DMG. I've always seen the pricetag on magical items not as an actual pricetag, so much as a level indication when you should get it. +2 weapon is affordable and not out of reason around level 8, etc. Otherwise, in the game where my PC starts at level 5, I don't really see him walking into Joe's Magical Emporium and dropping 5,000gp to stock up on magical equipment right before he meets up with the other characters. Those are just items he got in his travels. It's no different, to me, than a mage picking the spells in his book up to the first session of the game. Otherwise, I have to go through the character creation process, let the DM see my character sheet, and then ask, "Can you give me magical items now for my level?" Is that what is preferred? Asking the GM what magical equipment you have [i]before you even sit down at the table[/i]? [/QUOTE]
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