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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4061107" data-attributes="member: 18280">Again, from the sounds of things, you are too worried that, when the players respond to perceived opportunities in the game world, that they are actually trying to &quot;show off&quot; and &quot;outplay&quot; you.Well, obviously, the players are trying to show off. They are trying to be the cool, clever, tough characters in the game world. They are trying to be movers and shakers. And there is (or should be) nothing wrong with that.It is rather your concern that they are trying to &quot;beat&quot; or &quot;outplay&quot; you (as DM) that is questionable. That players can't win against a DM determined to make them lose is a given; that the players see an opportunity and try to make use of it, assuming that you are not out to make them lose, should be a given too. There might be a good in-game reason that their idea won't work, but that in-game reason should never exist simply to foil the PCs.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4061107, member: 18280"] Again, from the sounds of things, you are too worried that, when the players respond to perceived opportunities in the game world, that they are actually trying to "show off" and "outplay" you. Well, obviously, the players are trying to show off. They are trying to be the cool, clever, tough characters in the game world. They are trying to be movers and shakers. And there is (or should be) nothing wrong with that. It is rather your concern that they are trying to "beat" or "outplay" you (as DM) that is questionable. That players can't win against a DM determined to make them lose is a given; that the players see an opportunity and try to make use of it, assuming that you are not out to make them lose, should be a given too. There might be a good in-game reason that their idea won't work, but that in-game reason should never exist [i]simply to foil the PCs[/i]. RC [/QUOTE]

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