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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4627259" data-attributes="member: 30001">Yea, if it's essentially a "bullet point" list of facts about things then I think that's pretty cool- otherwise I think the descriptions can get unecessarily wordy. But I'm not a fan of 4E's implementation of knowledge skills.  Magic items, for example - I would think that recognizing the Grail would not be a DC 30 knowledge check.  Knowledge should be based on accessiblity/fame IMO, not power.  I don't know why a +1 sword is easier to get information about than a +4 sword. Secondly, I thought the information about monsters in the MM didn't seem right.  Some very well-known facts (at least well-known to the players) and ordinary ones about monsters were given high DCs for reasons I couldn't figure out (other than level maybe, I didn't check, but as I said that's not a convincing reason).  All of the facts I saw in the MM would be considered "common knowledge" in my campaign and not warrant more than a DC 15.  Given the superficial nature of the information in what I've seen of the MoP so far, I wouldn't give those facts more than a 15 either.</blockquote>