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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3461388" data-attributes="member: 43358">I am still a little lost on the ambiguity part. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />I do not see how, but lets drop it ok?If you take the monster as presented in the manual and change it in some way this can effect its challenge rating.Some of these effects are better defined than others though. Some of them are not done very well even while defined.If you put a creature in a situation advantageous to it you change the amount of experience that you should award. The challenge rating is not actually changed but the challenge itself was.But if you change the creature itself then it is no longer a certainty that its new abilities leave its actual challenge rating the same.If you were to take a hill giant, for example, and give it better armor and some magical equipment then you could easily make the challenge for fighting it much harder. It could suddenly be several points higher in the armor class department and possibly do even more damage than it does not. The same as if you had just suddenly given it +4 to all of its statistics. The creature is no longer the same as the one in the manual and so the challenge rating given is no longer appropriate.No, challenge rating is not an exact science. It has a lot of issues in fact.But I would still argue that by changing the creature as presented then you have a very good chance of changing its challenge rating.This looks to me like you are saying that you change monsters to be better but that does not actually make them a tougher challenge?You are not actually saying that right? If you are then I can only say that I disagree with your conclusion.If you change a creatures skill focus (profession (dairy farmer)) into melee weapon mastery, since it happens to qualify for it somehow, you have definately changed the strength of that creature! We can change that hill giant around to make him a whirlwind master who trips everyone who comes within 20 feet as well, all it takes is a little boost to intelligence and changing his feats around. I would imagine that its challenge rating would be different however.</blockquote>

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