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<blockquote data-quote="Crosshair" data-source="post: 3462635" data-attributes="member: 22325"><p>What a community of tangents, shooting off in every direction.</p><p></p><p>To prove how ridiculous the open-ended bonus to AC can be, someone brought up the fact that given to a monster, the belt would help some monsters kill a few parties.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, I believe it was a very relevant point that the belt is an open-ended bonus. There is no limit to the belt. I've heard a lot of people say "this or that" is appropriate for "XX level". These terms are dealing in specifics and do no present a sweeping argument for the item as a whole. It's more logical to view it from the standpoint of every power level.</p><p></p><p>The arguments about getting armor and a shield instead of a monk's belt are interesting... but the protection capacities of a fixed defense item are, well, fixed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Many people have mentioned the fact that if the belt were to grant wisdom to AC it would be moot because most characters have a wisdom score that would make the defense bonus negligible. However, once PCs rise in wealth it may become more advantageous to bump wisdom instead of buying natural armor/deflection bonuses. This point is most valid in the transition from say a ring of deflection +5(nonepic) to a ring of deflection +6(epic). For the 310,000 gp difference you could easily boost your wisdom(and gain all the corresponding bonuses, such as listen/spot, will saves) for a few pennies less.</p><p></p><p>That's what I've got for the moment.</p><p></p><p>Oh yea, and thanks for all the random tangents :S, this is the largest thread I've had. </p><p></p><p>And what are you guys doing arguing about fallacies anyway??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crosshair, post: 3462635, member: 22325"] What a community of tangents, shooting off in every direction. To prove how ridiculous the open-ended bonus to AC can be, someone brought up the fact that given to a monster, the belt would help some monsters kill a few parties. Also, I believe it was a very relevant point that the belt is an open-ended bonus. There is no limit to the belt. I've heard a lot of people say "this or that" is appropriate for "XX level". These terms are dealing in specifics and do no present a sweeping argument for the item as a whole. It's more logical to view it from the standpoint of every power level. The arguments about getting armor and a shield instead of a monk's belt are interesting... but the protection capacities of a fixed defense item are, well, fixed. Many people have mentioned the fact that if the belt were to grant wisdom to AC it would be moot because most characters have a wisdom score that would make the defense bonus negligible. However, once PCs rise in wealth it may become more advantageous to bump wisdom instead of buying natural armor/deflection bonuses. This point is most valid in the transition from say a ring of deflection +5(nonepic) to a ring of deflection +6(epic). For the 310,000 gp difference you could easily boost your wisdom(and gain all the corresponding bonuses, such as listen/spot, will saves) for a few pennies less. That's what I've got for the moment. Oh yea, and thanks for all the random tangents :S, this is the largest thread I've had. And what are you guys doing arguing about fallacies anyway?? [/QUOTE]
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