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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7114925" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>My point is that you're describing general D&D Wizards. Grease, Fog Cloud, Fireball, ... these things might qualify as Conjuring in another game, but not D&D, where they have been available to every Magic User for decades.</p><p></p><p>Not saying this to argue, but to point out that there are posts here that look like they contest the OPs implied accusation, but really don't. In other words, I would like to ask you to flat out concede his point, that conjurers aren't conjuring much in 5e.</p><p></p><p>This isn't something that is wrong, by the way. It just is.</p><p></p><p>But replies such as "sounds like a good number of monsters to me" or telling the OP about conjuration spells every wizard gets or bringing up unofficial UA content are just not helpful if you are confused about the conjurer's role per the PHB. Better is to state up front that conjurers don't conjure many more monsters than other wizards, and that wizards don't conjure many monsters at all, compared to druids for instance. </p><p></p><p>Directly, openly and honestly putting down the baseline is what the OP needs to hear first, before we offer ways to amp up the conjuration aspects and/or suggest houserules and playtest content. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7114925, member: 12731"] My point is that you're describing general D&D Wizards. Grease, Fog Cloud, Fireball, ... these things might qualify as Conjuring in another game, but not D&D, where they have been available to every Magic User for decades. Not saying this to argue, but to point out that there are posts here that look like they contest the OPs implied accusation, but really don't. In other words, I would like to ask you to flat out concede his point, that conjurers aren't conjuring much in 5e. This isn't something that is wrong, by the way. It just is. But replies such as "sounds like a good number of monsters to me" or telling the OP about conjuration spells every wizard gets or bringing up unofficial UA content are just not helpful if you are confused about the conjurer's role per the PHB. Better is to state up front that conjurers don't conjure many more monsters than other wizards, and that wizards don't conjure many monsters at all, compared to druids for instance. Directly, openly and honestly putting down the baseline is what the OP needs to hear first, before we offer ways to amp up the conjuration aspects and/or suggest houserules and playtest content. :) [/QUOTE]
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