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<blockquote data-quote="Shasarak" data-source="post: 7717187" data-attributes="member: 94143">You are right that not everyone used every rule when playing 2e.&nbsp; One of the more common ones was not using level limits and I am sure there are plenty of other examples.You are correct and 3e also opened up bonuses for high Con to everyone not just Fighters as well.&nbsp; But again all of that is written on the Character Sheet so you do not have to remember what your bonus is for having a 16 Str.+6 to Concentration is +6 to your Concentration roll the same way that +3 to Riding, Land based was +3 to your Riding, Land based roll.&nbsp; And as for opening up thief abilities, well are we really expected to believe that only Thieves have a chance to climb something?&nbsp; What to try and move silently?&nbsp; Well you are not a Thief so tough luck?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what?&nbsp; &nbsp; o_O"&nbsp; data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" />I have seen some people saying that before Thieves were introduced as a class that everyone could try and climb and sneak so maybe in this case 3e was just changing back to the original way that it used to be.I am not saying that they are not different games.&nbsp; Obviously it is not like changing from 3e to 3.5 or 4e to Essentials.&nbsp; I am just saying that the changes to the character sheets were nowhere as drastic as you claim.&nbsp; AC is still Armour Class just going up instead of down.&nbsp; Attack bonus is still doing the same thing as THAC0 just going up instead of down.&nbsp; Longswords are still doing 1d8 damage + Str and Fireballs are still Fireballing.&nbsp; I dont really know any Dragonsfoot folks to be able to comment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shasarak, post: 7717187, member: 94143"] You are right that not everyone used every rule when playing 2e. One of the more common ones was not using level limits and I am sure there are plenty of other examples. You are correct and 3e also opened up bonuses for high Con to everyone not just Fighters as well. But again all of that is written on the Character Sheet so you do not have to remember what your bonus is for having a 16 Str. +6 to Concentration is +6 to your Concentration roll the same way that +3 to Riding, Land based was +3 to your Riding, Land based roll. And as for opening up thief abilities, well are we really expected to believe that only Thieves have a chance to climb something? What to try and move silently? Well you are not a Thief so tough luck? o_O I have seen some people saying that before Thieves were introduced as a class that everyone could try and climb and sneak so maybe in this case 3e was just changing back to the original way that it used to be. I am not saying that they are not different games. Obviously it is not like changing from 3e to 3.5 or 4e to Essentials. I am just saying that the changes to the character sheets were nowhere as drastic as you claim. AC is still Armour Class just going up instead of down. Attack bonus is still doing the same thing as THAC0 just going up instead of down. Longswords are still doing 1d8 damage + Str and Fireballs are still Fireballing. I dont really know any Dragonsfoot folks to be able to comment. [/QUOTE]

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