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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7796759" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>For me, I would have asked the player not to ask a question and instead state as an action that gives me something to judge. This would necessarily include what information the player wants and what the character is drawing upon to recall the lore.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If I had established already that they were not known in the civilized world at all, my response would have been, "As I mentioned before, these creatures are not known in the civilized world at all." This reinforces to the player that what has been established previously matters and to pay attention.</p><p></p><p>If I <em>hadn't </em>already established this, I would feel I was on less firm ground to say rule that an attempt to recall lore was a failure without a roll. Typically, if it matters to the challenge in some way that characters would not be able to recall a thing due to no exposure to it, I'm going to establish that well in advance of it coming up so that this isn't an issue. At least, that's the goal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I note how I do it upthread. But the key part here is getting the player to be reasonably specific about what they want to recall. If that doesn't include uses for the creature's bones, then that's not going to be at stake if there's a roll. If I do have a creature that has useful parts, then I'm likely to telegraph that in some way and leave it for them to investigate, perhaps after the battle. Maybe they do, maybe they don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7796759, member: 97077"] For me, I would have asked the player not to ask a question and instead state as an action that gives me something to judge. This would necessarily include what information the player wants and what the character is drawing upon to recall the lore. If I had established already that they were not known in the civilized world at all, my response would have been, "As I mentioned before, these creatures are not known in the civilized world at all." This reinforces to the player that what has been established previously matters and to pay attention. If I [I]hadn't [/I]already established this, I would feel I was on less firm ground to say rule that an attempt to recall lore was a failure without a roll. Typically, if it matters to the challenge in some way that characters would not be able to recall a thing due to no exposure to it, I'm going to establish that well in advance of it coming up so that this isn't an issue. At least, that's the goal. I note how I do it upthread. But the key part here is getting the player to be reasonably specific about what they want to recall. If that doesn't include uses for the creature's bones, then that's not going to be at stake if there's a roll. If I do have a creature that has useful parts, then I'm likely to telegraph that in some way and leave it for them to investigate, perhaps after the battle. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. [/QUOTE]
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