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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7797520" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Hm.</p><p></p><p>So, here's an honest question that could resolve a ton of stuff. And my apologies if this got addressed elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>What is the difference between "failure" and "not succeeding"? Is there always a difference?</p><p></p><p>I ask because in some games - like those in which the GM never rolls dice, and how situations resolve depends on how well the players do on their actions, the framing could be stated like this (including some levels of success):</p><p></p><p>"Here is the situation - X will happen if you do not act. X-minus will happen if you act, and sorta succeed. And If you really do awesomely, X is completely avoided."</p><p></p><p>In this framing, we often see failure to be equivalent to not acting - you still fail to avert X, so it happens. If the Bear is going to bite you, standing there like a ninny and not moving may be equivalent to trying to dodge, but zigging when you should have zagged - a failure has no practical difference from inaction. But, overall, the question is "How well did do you succeed?" rather than "Did you fail?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7797520, member: 177"] Hm. So, here's an honest question that could resolve a ton of stuff. And my apologies if this got addressed elsewhere. What is the difference between "failure" and "not succeeding"? Is there always a difference? I ask because in some games - like those in which the GM never rolls dice, and how situations resolve depends on how well the players do on their actions, the framing could be stated like this (including some levels of success): "Here is the situation - X will happen if you do not act. X-minus will happen if you act, and sorta succeed. And If you really do awesomely, X is completely avoided." In this framing, we often see failure to be equivalent to not acting - you still fail to avert X, so it happens. If the Bear is going to bite you, standing there like a ninny and not moving may be equivalent to trying to dodge, but zigging when you should have zagged - a failure has no practical difference from inaction. But, overall, the question is "How well did do you succeed?" rather than "Did you fail?" [/QUOTE]
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