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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7798339" data-attributes="member: 6919838">Well, to me, the reason i do not like the wait-until-crisis-point and don't have issues with metagaming are:1 - Waiting until crisis point to me tends to remove some player interaction. if they roll low "prematurely" and get a narration of things at the scene which make them very uncertain its gonna work, they can pull back and regroup or maybe just change up how they do it. its not plausible to me that they start off noisy and just never notice or that they only got noisy or noticed it when a bad guy was close enough for it to matter. i am fine with narrating a bad roll with reasons its not going well and then let them react and interact with that.2 - Since i narrate the d20 roll into the scene, its info the character has (expressed without the number of course) and so using it to make choices is not metagaming.And finally, in my games, house rule, any task that is longer than a few seconds long is resolved by a kind of race to three extended roll system. A failure tends to result in a problem that needs to be addressed or it leads to disadvantage going forward the same way. its mostly a type of some progress with setback.</blockquote>