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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 7801168" data-attributes="member: 6802765">(Bold emphasis added.) I acknowledge that the way in which you implement goal-and-approach requires the playstyle changes you describe, including the bolded part about scene framing. I disagree that goal-and-approach as (obliquely) described in the PHB and DMG requires those playstyle changes.As evidence, I would point to the fact that 5e contains explicit rules for resolving repeated actions by using passive checks. Ergo, 5e contemplates that repeated checks may be a thing even though it also describes the basics of the goal-and-approach method. That suggests to me that goal-and-approach in its simplest form can't require a framing style like yours that precludes the possibility of repeated checks.As an observation, it seems to me that the framing techniques [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] considers to be a necessary part of goal-and-approach may be required specifically when one is trying to emphasize high-stakes, point-of-action action declarations. If I understand correctly, a low-stakes action declaration of walking down a hallway (approach) to get to the other side (goal) is undesirable at [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER]'s table. It makes sense to me that if one want to avoid low-stakes action declarations one has to exclusively frame high-stakes situations. (I just personally don't see low-stakes goal-and-approach action declarations, like character movement, as undesirable, and therefore see no issue with describing a hallway as part of my description of the environment.) [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER], if I'm misunderstanding, please let me know.In any case, goal-and-approach clearly means slightly/somewhat/significantly different things to different people. (I mean, you and [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER]  are disagreeing about whether you agree on what the concept requires. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) Nomenclature will be a bit tricky if you do put together a summary thread.</blockquote>

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