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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7809602" data-attributes="member: 16814">I think you've missed some things in here, and have confused some things to do exactly what you complain about in your opening.  "I cast Fireball at the Orc" is explicit goal and approach.  You're confusing the casting of fireball as the goal, with the approach implied.  It is not.  The goal is to hurt that orc.  Which orc?  That one.  The approach to hurting the orc is to cast fireball.  As DM, this is a straighforward adjudication -- there's nothing to prevent you from using this approach and I know towards which goal it should be applied so it's auto-success.  I'll say, "Go ahead and roll your damage,  The Orc fails his saving throw."  I'll then apply the damage to the orc because that furthers the goal of hurting the orc, and you did get an autosuccess towards that goal.Most of the confusion around this topic is the misidentification of the goal -- quite often I see people mistake using a mechanic as the goal.  In this case, fireball is the mechanic.  But this isn't the goal, its the means to accomplish the goal.</blockquote>