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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7810941" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Pushing a button is probably a bit too dismissive, but it is an accurate description. It doesn't matter what's happening in the fiction, I can say, "Can I roll Insight to tell if they're lying?" There's no interaction with the fiction here, it's a stock ask that gets the result of being able to roll dice in an attempt to get the DM to tell me more stuff. It's functionally equivalent to pressing a button, like in a video game where you have an extra-sense to detect things. You press the button, and get a ping. Same effect here.</p><p></p><p>And, this is how a lot of D&D has been played for a long time. It's not bad, in and of itself. I, myself, played D&D for a long time using these methods and thought nothing of it -- it was expected and how those skills worked. I press my Insight skill button and, if I roll well, the DM tells me secret stuff.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, this is on you. You play with Insight being a button-press and are arguing that it should be for everyone. I'm absolutely saying you can use it that way, but I don't. There's only one of us trying to declare how you're supposed to play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7810941, member: 16814"] Pushing a button is probably a bit too dismissive, but it is an accurate description. It doesn't matter what's happening in the fiction, I can say, "Can I roll Insight to tell if they're lying?" There's no interaction with the fiction here, it's a stock ask that gets the result of being able to roll dice in an attempt to get the DM to tell me more stuff. It's functionally equivalent to pressing a button, like in a video game where you have an extra-sense to detect things. You press the button, and get a ping. Same effect here. And, this is how a lot of D&D has been played for a long time. It's not bad, in and of itself. I, myself, played D&D for a long time using these methods and thought nothing of it -- it was expected and how those skills worked. I press my Insight skill button and, if I roll well, the DM tells me secret stuff. No, this is on you. You play with Insight being a button-press and are arguing that it should be for everyone. I'm absolutely saying you can use it that way, but I don't. There's only one of us trying to declare how you're supposed to play. [/QUOTE]
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