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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7924210" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Ok, so attacking this from a different angle. Certain aspects of the Tengu Witch scenario that prompted this latest conversation are unique to the fantasy scenario. But the underlying questions of about what is right and wrong are not limited to fantasy scenarios.</p><p></p><p>In the game Mass Effect, one of the sentient species is the Krogan. The Krogan are a violent predatory species that have in their natural evolved state the ability to overproduce offspring. Krogans naturally reproduce many more children than an ecology can support. In their natural state the Krogan have to make war and kill a very high percentage of their own species, or else the ecology would collapse from an overabundance of top order predators. So long as the Krogan were confined to a single world, this meant that their species were just in perpetual warfare with themselves. But when the Krogan gained the ability to travel off world, the self-limiting pressure that the species placed on themselves was ended. The Krogan could expand through the galaxy, reproducing rapidly, filling every ecosystem, and exterminating all other sentient species that were in their way.</p><p></p><p>In a less thoughtful story, the Krogan would be the villains. But at the time the story is set, the Krogan have been defeated and largely confined to their home world. To prevent the biological inevitability of the war reoccurring, a group of scientists created a tailored virus which would render about 98% of Krograns in each generation sterile. Only by rendering 98% of Krogans sterile would the Krogans be so biologically limited that they could no longer sustain mass casualties in war. The result of this sterility is that Krogans cannot sustain war against another sentient species. But since the Krogans still retain their biological instinct to fight and kill each other, the species is in a state of decline and their culture is in a state of essentially universal depression. Krogans now lack the ability to act according to their instinctive imperatives, because when they do, their species declines. Peaceableness has been forced on them. As result they are having to redefine themselves, and it's a painful process fighting against their own instincts to destroy. Many want to find a cure to the sterility so they can return to their "glory days", but their glory days are actually defined by perpetual violence and genocide.</p><p></p><p>The architect of the viral sterility is a very thoughtful scientist that is a major NPC in the story. And he spends most of the story wrestling with the morality of his own choices. And you the player can affirm or deny his conclusions, influencing the story.</p><p></p><p>Is this whole thing wrong to think about for the same reasons you assert that it is wrong to have alignment? The Silurian scientist is essentially adopting the same solution in a different setting as the Tengu Witch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7924210, member: 4937"] Ok, so attacking this from a different angle. Certain aspects of the Tengu Witch scenario that prompted this latest conversation are unique to the fantasy scenario. But the underlying questions of about what is right and wrong are not limited to fantasy scenarios. In the game Mass Effect, one of the sentient species is the Krogan. The Krogan are a violent predatory species that have in their natural evolved state the ability to overproduce offspring. Krogans naturally reproduce many more children than an ecology can support. In their natural state the Krogan have to make war and kill a very high percentage of their own species, or else the ecology would collapse from an overabundance of top order predators. So long as the Krogan were confined to a single world, this meant that their species were just in perpetual warfare with themselves. But when the Krogan gained the ability to travel off world, the self-limiting pressure that the species placed on themselves was ended. The Krogan could expand through the galaxy, reproducing rapidly, filling every ecosystem, and exterminating all other sentient species that were in their way. In a less thoughtful story, the Krogan would be the villains. But at the time the story is set, the Krogan have been defeated and largely confined to their home world. To prevent the biological inevitability of the war reoccurring, a group of scientists created a tailored virus which would render about 98% of Krograns in each generation sterile. Only by rendering 98% of Krogans sterile would the Krogans be so biologically limited that they could no longer sustain mass casualties in war. The result of this sterility is that Krogans cannot sustain war against another sentient species. But since the Krogans still retain their biological instinct to fight and kill each other, the species is in a state of decline and their culture is in a state of essentially universal depression. Krogans now lack the ability to act according to their instinctive imperatives, because when they do, their species declines. Peaceableness has been forced on them. As result they are having to redefine themselves, and it's a painful process fighting against their own instincts to destroy. Many want to find a cure to the sterility so they can return to their "glory days", but their glory days are actually defined by perpetual violence and genocide. The architect of the viral sterility is a very thoughtful scientist that is a major NPC in the story. And he spends most of the story wrestling with the morality of his own choices. And you the player can affirm or deny his conclusions, influencing the story. Is this whole thing wrong to think about for the same reasons you assert that it is wrong to have alignment? The Silurian scientist is essentially adopting the same solution in a different setting as the Tengu Witch. [/QUOTE]
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