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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7924218" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Again, you seem to have struck out on a tangent and not answered or responded to anything I've actually said. Not only are you continuing to evade the question I asked, but you are not defending any of the four points you raised in an earlier post.</p><p></p><p>Lions and hyenas have very little to do with the question. Morality is generally seen as something only a fully sentient species can possess. For example, the small pox virus is not generally regarded as possessing the quality of "evil", even though it creates evils. Nor does anyone seem to be morally troubled by the fact that we exterminated it. Lions are animals, and I think we generally agree that animals are in some sense categorically different than persons. I'm not suggesting lions have no sentience, no intelligence, and no rights - but the degree of sentience and intelligence is so different than that of persons that they cannot be classified in the same fashion.</p><p></p><p>So again, to raise the issue of lions or hyenas seems to be evading the question. Neither lions nor hyenas are seen as moral actors.</p><p></p><p>However, I think that if you were to imagine a sentient species with the biology and culture of lions, then that species would be pretty darn appalling in all sorts of ways. As I've said before, when defining how Drow behave in my game, I looked to lions for inspiration, because a sentient species that behaved like lions was about the most evil and depraved thing that I could imagine. The degree to which lion society is appalling is not something you have more than barely touched on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7924218, member: 4937"] Again, you seem to have struck out on a tangent and not answered or responded to anything I've actually said. Not only are you continuing to evade the question I asked, but you are not defending any of the four points you raised in an earlier post. Lions and hyenas have very little to do with the question. Morality is generally seen as something only a fully sentient species can possess. For example, the small pox virus is not generally regarded as possessing the quality of "evil", even though it creates evils. Nor does anyone seem to be morally troubled by the fact that we exterminated it. Lions are animals, and I think we generally agree that animals are in some sense categorically different than persons. I'm not suggesting lions have no sentience, no intelligence, and no rights - but the degree of sentience and intelligence is so different than that of persons that they cannot be classified in the same fashion. So again, to raise the issue of lions or hyenas seems to be evading the question. Neither lions nor hyenas are seen as moral actors. However, I think that if you were to imagine a sentient species with the biology and culture of lions, then that species would be pretty darn appalling in all sorts of ways. As I've said before, when defining how Drow behave in my game, I looked to lions for inspiration, because a sentient species that behaved like lions was about the most evil and depraved thing that I could imagine. The degree to which lion society is appalling is not something you have more than barely touched on. [/QUOTE]
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