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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7924513" data-attributes="member: 4937">Ok, you don't seem interested in answering. I feel like you just dropped a grenade in the thread, and then ran off. You threw out an assertion that is in our present society one for which many people believe that they are justified in ruining and destroying other people's lives. You implied that if a game system, or the people that played it, featured alignment labels that that was wrong and racist. And racism is a charge that is consequential in modern society. You don't just throw down that gauntlet and act like you have said nothing. It's like yelling "Fire" in a crowded place. There better be some smoke around to justify it and you better be serious.Ironically, I also believe in your backtracking from that original bomb assertion, you have inadvertently created an argument that justifies racism and genocide.You argue that good or evil, right or wrong is subjective and that it changes from one person to another.You've argued that each person has their own "right" and own "wrong" particular to that person. You even went so far to suggest, "All of the above increases the lions chances of survival. So how can you call them anything but good?" But if we apply your logic to people, and we can't say what is right or wrong, and we can't call anything wrong if it increases the chances of survival, then everyone is perfectly justified in seeing the world as strictly a competition for resources, survival of the fittest, where winning is passing on your selfish genes to the most offspring that are possible. And, thus many would justify genocide and racial discrimination, with the claims that they are just fighting for their own.I think we want to be able to say that racism is wrong, and it is not merely a matter of subjective opinion as to whether it is wrong.  It is evil, and I think we would like to say that people ought not adopt the lion's view of survival of the fittest and kill everything that doesn't carry their genes.   I would call a philosophy of Social Darwinism anything but good.</blockquote>

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