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<blockquote data-quote="Truename" data-source="post: 5762253" data-attributes="member: 78255"><p>I'll second the recommendation to just subscribe to DDI. It's cheap and has all the crunch ever made. You can subscribe for just a month or two, play a few games, and see if 4e is your cup of tea.</p><p></p><p>Alternatively, if you want to stick with the books you have, WotC republished most of the classes in PH1 for free, with all errata built in, as the "Class Compendium" series. You can find them here:</p><p></p><p>Fighter: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201104fighter" target="_blank">Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Fighter (Weaponmaster))</a></p><p></p><p>Cleric: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201105templar" target="_blank">Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Cleric (Templar))</a></p><p></p><p>Wizard: <a href="http://wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201107wizard" target="_blank">Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Arcanist Wizard)</a></p><p></p><p>Rogue: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201106rogue" target="_blank">Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Scoundrel Rogue)</a></p><p></p><p>Warlord: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201103warlord" target="_blank">Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Warlord)</a></p><p></p><p>Finally, about the Essentials line: it's the same game as regular 4e, but with new class options in the books. It's not dumbed-down at all, but there is a wider range of complexity in the classes. The original 4e classes all read the same, although they play differently; the Essentials classes have a lot more variety, from the Slayer (just hit it with your axe) to the Mage (more complex than the PH1 wizard).</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think the Essentials design is excellent, although not everyone agrees. Regardless, all the classes are compatible regardless of which book they came from; my game has an Eberron Artificer, PH1 Warlock, PH2 Barbarian, PH2 Druid, and Essentials Knight all playing together, and it works great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Truename, post: 5762253, member: 78255"] I'll second the recommendation to just subscribe to DDI. It's cheap and has all the crunch ever made. You can subscribe for just a month or two, play a few games, and see if 4e is your cup of tea. Alternatively, if you want to stick with the books you have, WotC republished most of the classes in PH1 for free, with all errata built in, as the "Class Compendium" series. You can find them here: Fighter: [url=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201104fighter]Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Fighter (Weaponmaster))[/url] Cleric: [url=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201105templar]Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Cleric (Templar))[/url] Wizard: [url=http://wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201107wizard]Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Arcanist Wizard)[/url] Rogue: [url=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201106rogue]Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Scoundrel Rogue)[/url] Warlord: [url=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dra/201103warlord]Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (The Warlord)[/url] Finally, about the Essentials line: it's the same game as regular 4e, but with new class options in the books. It's not dumbed-down at all, but there is a wider range of complexity in the classes. The original 4e classes all read the same, although they play differently; the Essentials classes have a lot more variety, from the Slayer (just hit it with your axe) to the Mage (more complex than the PH1 wizard). Personally, I think the Essentials design is excellent, although not everyone agrees. Regardless, all the classes are compatible regardless of which book they came from; my game has an Eberron Artificer, PH1 Warlock, PH2 Barbarian, PH2 Druid, and Essentials Knight all playing together, and it works great. [/QUOTE]
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