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Considering replacing paladin with generic holy knight type class
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<blockquote data-quote="uv23" data-source="post: 175730" data-attributes="member: 678"><p>Keep in mind this is an officer of the church, rather than a noble warrior. They should for all intents and purposes, be quite similar to a paladin, keeping in mind they can be of any lawful alignment.</p><p></p><p>My campaign setting has a strong emphasis on religion and politics in that most of the major players are nations backed by, created by or controlled by a church. As far as the lawful evil church goes, they're more intersted in control and defining the world in their image rather than eating babies. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> So if you envision a Knights of Takhisis kind of group then you're going in the right direction.</p><p></p><p>So anyways getting back on track. A good balance of law and religion based abilities with a reasonable emphasis on the religious aspect of the archetype.</p><p></p><p>Since we're talking core class, I definitely think it should have a good fort and will save. This would represent the military training as well as the strength of mind and will gained through religious indoctrination/education.</p><p></p><p>hit die d10</p><p></p><p>class skills look good though I'd drop gather information and add handle animal</p><p></p><p>no lay on hands and no cleric spells.. i like to keep magic with the magic users rather than proliferating it among the classes (way too much of this already IMO)</p><p></p><p>I think smite chaos would be good (theres a hefty law vs chaos dynamic in the ampaign setting) or rather, a "smite infidel" type ability that targets clerics and holy knights of any other faith.. supernatural ability</p><p></p><p>can you remind me what combat sense is again?</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your input by the way! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> It would be great if through working together and with other ppl, we could cook up something tasty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="uv23, post: 175730, member: 678"] Keep in mind this is an officer of the church, rather than a noble warrior. They should for all intents and purposes, be quite similar to a paladin, keeping in mind they can be of any lawful alignment. My campaign setting has a strong emphasis on religion and politics in that most of the major players are nations backed by, created by or controlled by a church. As far as the lawful evil church goes, they're more intersted in control and defining the world in their image rather than eating babies. :) So if you envision a Knights of Takhisis kind of group then you're going in the right direction. So anyways getting back on track. A good balance of law and religion based abilities with a reasonable emphasis on the religious aspect of the archetype. Since we're talking core class, I definitely think it should have a good fort and will save. This would represent the military training as well as the strength of mind and will gained through religious indoctrination/education. hit die d10 class skills look good though I'd drop gather information and add handle animal no lay on hands and no cleric spells.. i like to keep magic with the magic users rather than proliferating it among the classes (way too much of this already IMO) I think smite chaos would be good (theres a hefty law vs chaos dynamic in the ampaign setting) or rather, a "smite infidel" type ability that targets clerics and holy knights of any other faith.. supernatural ability can you remind me what combat sense is again? Thanks for your input by the way! :) It would be great if through working together and with other ppl, we could cook up something tasty. [/QUOTE]
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