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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 178385" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Here is my suggestion.</p><p></p><p>Use the paladin class, less Spells and Lay on Hands.</p><p></p><p>In their place, boost up the mount. Allow a celestial or fiendish mount (the "neutral" Crusader could choose either?), and be sure to use full benefits of it being a Magical Beast (give it d10 and feats and skills as a magical beast).</p><p></p><p>This kind of forces the neutrals to lean towards good or evil, but clerics need to do that already anyway with spontaneous cure/inflict and turn undead, so maybe it's not so bad.</p><p></p><p>Change Smite Evil to Smite Infidel:</p><p></p><p>If LG can smite any evil or CN.</p><p>If LN can smite good or evil (choose at character generation - it must line up with turn undead and mount choice) and CN.</p><p>If LE can smite any good and CN.</p><p></p><p>You might also consider allowing an additional smite every 4 levels or so, to amek up for no spells.</p><p></p><p>There. This is the simplest way I could think of to get where you want to go.</p><p></p><p>Another possibility is to set up a new class, sort of. Make them start as a fighter and switch to a prestige class (of your choice, not theirs) at a certain level - the pre-defined path pretty much makes it a new class. You could even type this up as a new class - while it would look a bit odd, it would follow the rules pretty well and, presumably, already be balanced for you..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 178385, member: 111"] Here is my suggestion. Use the paladin class, less Spells and Lay on Hands. In their place, boost up the mount. Allow a celestial or fiendish mount (the "neutral" Crusader could choose either?), and be sure to use full benefits of it being a Magical Beast (give it d10 and feats and skills as a magical beast). This kind of forces the neutrals to lean towards good or evil, but clerics need to do that already anyway with spontaneous cure/inflict and turn undead, so maybe it's not so bad. Change Smite Evil to Smite Infidel: If LG can smite any evil or CN. If LN can smite good or evil (choose at character generation - it must line up with turn undead and mount choice) and CN. If LE can smite any good and CN. You might also consider allowing an additional smite every 4 levels or so, to amek up for no spells. There. This is the simplest way I could think of to get where you want to go. Another possibility is to set up a new class, sort of. Make them start as a fighter and switch to a prestige class (of your choice, not theirs) at a certain level - the pre-defined path pretty much makes it a new class. You could even type this up as a new class - while it would look a bit odd, it would follow the rules pretty well and, presumably, already be balanced for you.. [/QUOTE]
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