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<blockquote data-quote="Gadget" data-source="post: 6600169" data-attributes="member: 23716"><p>Thanks for the discussion! In addition to the concept of Bounded Accuracy, 5e really set out to tackle the "Quadratic Wizard, Linear Fighter" or (QWLF) problem. As you noted, lower level wizards tend to have a bit more ommph in their pocket, but that comes at a cost. Higher Level spell slots are not as plentiful as in any other edition. You only ever get one 9th level spell per day. And eighth level spell for that matter. Spells no longer auto scale as you level up. As has been previously mentioned, that fireball has to be cast in a higher level (and thus more rare) slot to do more damage. Many of the spells that could be layered on to the party and radically alter their combat power are limited by the concentration mechanic. You can only ever have one concentration spell up at a time, and if you take damage you have to make a save to maintain it. No longer can you be invisible, flying, stoneskinned, fireballing machine of death. This is very limiting. Many of the spells, though with similar names and effects, have been reduced in power by requiring multiple saving throws (some every round) to take effect or get the full effect. Save or Die (and its little brother Save or Suck) spells have been toned down quite a bit. Many of the traditional 'broken' spells have been adjusted (Polymorph, etc.). There still may be broken things or combos, but it is not nearly as bad as it was.</p><p></p><p>Now that said, wizards get the benefits of specialization and they don't have to prepare spells into specific 'slots' to cast anymore. Want to cast fireball more than once? Just prepare it and cast it as many times as you have 3rd level or higher slots. Or not at all if you use those slots for another spell of 3rd level or higher. They are kind of like 3e sorcerers who get to change their 'spells known' list every day. So wizards and magic definitely plays a little different in this edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadget, post: 6600169, member: 23716"] Thanks for the discussion! In addition to the concept of Bounded Accuracy, 5e really set out to tackle the "Quadratic Wizard, Linear Fighter" or (QWLF) problem. As you noted, lower level wizards tend to have a bit more ommph in their pocket, but that comes at a cost. Higher Level spell slots are not as plentiful as in any other edition. You only ever get one 9th level spell per day. And eighth level spell for that matter. Spells no longer auto scale as you level up. As has been previously mentioned, that fireball has to be cast in a higher level (and thus more rare) slot to do more damage. Many of the spells that could be layered on to the party and radically alter their combat power are limited by the concentration mechanic. You can only ever have one concentration spell up at a time, and if you take damage you have to make a save to maintain it. No longer can you be invisible, flying, stoneskinned, fireballing machine of death. This is very limiting. Many of the spells, though with similar names and effects, have been reduced in power by requiring multiple saving throws (some every round) to take effect or get the full effect. Save or Die (and its little brother Save or Suck) spells have been toned down quite a bit. Many of the traditional 'broken' spells have been adjusted (Polymorph, etc.). There still may be broken things or combos, but it is not nearly as bad as it was. Now that said, wizards get the benefits of specialization and they don't have to prepare spells into specific 'slots' to cast anymore. Want to cast fireball more than once? Just prepare it and cast it as many times as you have 3rd level or higher slots. Or not at all if you use those slots for another spell of 3rd level or higher. They are kind of like 3e sorcerers who get to change their 'spells known' list every day. So wizards and magic definitely plays a little different in this edition. [/QUOTE]
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