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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1562198" data-attributes="member: 8439">unfortunately, this example shows the weak spot in the feat. Aside from mechanical advantage, the named and enumerated feats give flavor by focusing the character on an area. Hide and move silent, spot and listen, know nature and survival, these skills may not have the same ability mod or be on the same class lists together all the time, but they make sense together, unlike hide and jump, which make no sense to get from the same feat. Most DMs will allow an expansion of the (fairly reasonable, imho) named +2/+2 feats to other thematic linkages that make good sense. Making a single feat with strict rules for which skills work will cause more trouble than needed for those players with stricter DMs and making one completely open ended is I think, bad design. I'm fine with the list in the PHB, and I don't tend to notice too many of the +2/+2s in the books I buy, so I don't really see the problem you're trying to solve. (the overspecialization part particularly... even using all the outside sources is there any skill that there are 4 or more of these feats effecting?) Kahuna Burger</blockquote>