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<blockquote data-quote="Scotley" data-source="post: 3629378" data-attributes="member: 11520"><p>[sblock=For xedr]No problem. You seem to be confusing two weapon fighting with iterative attacks. You may be getting your total bonus confused with Base Attack bonus as well. We'll start with that. Normally, you get one swing in combat. If your Base Attack Bonus (before modifiers for magic, strenght etc. Is 6 or higher then you get an iterative attack in addition to you normal one attack. The normal attack is rolled base attack bonus + modifiers. Then you take the 2nd Iterative attack at a -5. So that's base attack bonus -5+ the usual modifiers. At 5th level a fighter gets a base attack bonus of +5, which is not good enough for an interative attack. At 11th level you get a second iterative attack for a total of three swings, one at normal base attack bonus of +11, One at -5 (so +6 net) and one at -10 (so at +1 net) then you add in all the other modifiers for strength, magic, feats, etc. Now, the rules you seemed to be trying to use are for fighting with a weapon in each hand. You get your normal attacks with the primary weapon at a penalty (If you base attack bonus were +6 or higher you'd still get iterative attacks with the primary weapon.) You also get an extra single attack with the weapon in your off hand. (Even if your base attack bonus were higher than +6 you still only get one swing with the off hand). Unless you take the proper feats (two-weapon fighting) and use a light weapon in the off hand (such as a dagger) then the penalties are really too high to make this style of fighting a good choice. You can also use a shield as a weapon to bash with instead of using it for defense, but again you face significant penalties. The upshot of all this is that Darius only gets the one swing per round. Most people don't bother to roll their crit check until after they actually score a 19 or 20 on the die. Remember that crits are based on the unmodified die roll, the type of creature you are fighting (many creatures are not subject to critial hits) and the weapon type. You don't get a crit for a modified 20. Only if the actual roll is a 20 (or 19 with the bastard sword). Hope that helps. Feel free to send me an email if you have additional questions about this. [/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scotley, post: 3629378, member: 11520"] [sblock=For xedr]No problem. You seem to be confusing two weapon fighting with iterative attacks. You may be getting your total bonus confused with Base Attack bonus as well. We'll start with that. Normally, you get one swing in combat. If your Base Attack Bonus (before modifiers for magic, strenght etc. Is 6 or higher then you get an iterative attack in addition to you normal one attack. The normal attack is rolled base attack bonus + modifiers. Then you take the 2nd Iterative attack at a -5. So that's base attack bonus -5+ the usual modifiers. At 5th level a fighter gets a base attack bonus of +5, which is not good enough for an interative attack. At 11th level you get a second iterative attack for a total of three swings, one at normal base attack bonus of +11, One at -5 (so +6 net) and one at -10 (so at +1 net) then you add in all the other modifiers for strength, magic, feats, etc. Now, the rules you seemed to be trying to use are for fighting with a weapon in each hand. You get your normal attacks with the primary weapon at a penalty (If you base attack bonus were +6 or higher you'd still get iterative attacks with the primary weapon.) You also get an extra single attack with the weapon in your off hand. (Even if your base attack bonus were higher than +6 you still only get one swing with the off hand). Unless you take the proper feats (two-weapon fighting) and use a light weapon in the off hand (such as a dagger) then the penalties are really too high to make this style of fighting a good choice. You can also use a shield as a weapon to bash with instead of using it for defense, but again you face significant penalties. The upshot of all this is that Darius only gets the one swing per round. Most people don't bother to roll their crit check until after they actually score a 19 or 20 on the die. Remember that crits are based on the unmodified die roll, the type of creature you are fighting (many creatures are not subject to critial hits) and the weapon type. You don't get a crit for a modified 20. Only if the actual roll is a 20 (or 19 with the bastard sword). Hope that helps. Feel free to send me an email if you have additional questions about this. [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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