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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gyr" data-source="post: 904657" data-attributes="member: 12094">Mistwell:  Actually, not quite right.  Creature's take the -20 if they themselves do not want to be grappled.If they choose to let themselves in turn be grappled, then they can still use their natural attacks (only) against the victim they're grappling with, conducted as normal attacks with normal AC but do not constrict.  Alternately, they can choose to make grapple checks against said victim, which bypass normal AC and DO constrict.If the monster chooses the -20 option, then it is not considered grappled and is free to use it's natural attacks on OTHER enemies. This is indeed what the FAQ says, but it is creates problems...look at such creatures as the Monstrous Colossal Scorpion which has improved grab and 64 HD...that's a ridiculous number of iterative grapple checks.  IIRC, there has been a sage ruling somewhere that creatures can make no more grapple checks than they have natural attacks in their routines.  Unfortunately, I have no reference for it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>