Contemplative PrC prerequistes: a bug?

[James McMurray]

Just a minor clarification: multi-classing in no way affects the max ranks you can have in a non-exclusive skill.

It doesn't affect the maximum ranks of an exclusive skill either. A Rogue 5 / Wizard 5 could have 13 ranks of Use Magic Device or Scry, he would just have to work the levels right. For instance, if he went from Rogue 5 / Wizard 4 with 7 ranks of Scry, when he gained his 5th level of wizard he could spend 6 skill points and up his Scry to 13 ranks. If he went from W5/R4 with 4 ranks of Use Magic Device, when he gained Rogue 5 he could spend 9 skill points to up his use magic device to 13 ranks.

The only time exclusivity enters into it is when the most recent class gained is not allowed the skill in question. In those cases, the character cannot up that skill. Thus it would be impossible for the Rogue 5 / Wiz 5 to have 13 ranks in both Use Magic Device and Scry. This is due to the way the leveling system works though, and is not because of the max skill ranks rules.

 

[Deedlit]

An expert could, but how many experts have had direct contact with their patron deity?(Also a prerequisite if I am not mistaken)

 

[Xarlen]

An expert could, but how many experts have had direct contact with their patron deity?(Also a prerequisite if I am not mistaken)

Depends on what he was smokin'...

 

[Christian]

It doesn't affect the maximum ranks of an exclusive skill either. A Rogue 5 / Wizard 5 could have 13 ranks of Use Magic Device or Scry, he would just have to work the levels right. For instance, if he went from Rogue 5 / Wizard 4 with 7 ranks of Scry, when he gained his 5th level of wizard he could spend 6 skill points and up his Scry to 13 ranks. If he went from W5/R4 with 4 ranks of Use Magic Device, when he gained Rogue 5 he could spend 9 skill points to up his use magic device to 13 ranks.

The only time exclusivity enters into it is when the most recent class gained is not allowed the skill in question. In those cases, the character cannot up that skill. Thus it would be impossible for the Rogue 5 / Wiz 5 to have 13 ranks in both Use Magic Device and Scry. This is due to the way the leveling system works though, and is not because of the max skill ranks rules.

This is incorrect.

If a skill is unavailable to a class (that is, if it's an exclusive skill that a multiclass character'sother class doesn't have access to), then levels in that class don't increase the character's maximum ranks. For instance, the 7th-level rogue/4th-level wizard would have a maximum rank of 10 in Use Magic Device, an exclusive class skill for rogues. The extra four levels in the wizard class do not increase the character's maximum rank in Use Magic Device.

(PH p. 56) Note that it makes no mention of a difference in which class is being leveled ...

 

[James McMurray]

I stand corrected.

 

[Pax]

"Requirements
To qualify to become a contemplative, a character must
fulfill all the following criteria.
Knowledge (religion): 13 ranks."


Knowledge religion 13 ranks???? It means I have to be level 12 to take this PrC! Is this right?

I dont think it´s very balanced to a 10 levels PrC.

Any thoughts? Any errata?

You have to be TENTH level, presuming Knowledge(Religion) is in-class for you (i.e., you are a Cleric). In-class skills can have a maximum rank of level plus 3.