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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 4034452" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>I'd say D&D is not going to work for you. Lots of the other suggestions might. </p><p></p><p>In most any modern day setting a game needs to deal with the problem of players roleplaying PCs who know things the players never will. This sort of "beyond the scope of the game" knowledge can be fudged, however, and often is by using skills. The downfall unfortunately is a game where players don't use what they know to succeed, but rather an abstract probability system. For example, if you play a modern day lawyer, a "Law" skill allows a GM to duplicate the PCs knowing some important legal information that affects the game without actually having to bring legal knowledge into the game. There are at least two problems with this as far as I can tell. One, this breaks players out of character, but is something of a necessity given the setting/type of knowledge. And two, it removes a players concept, lawyer, from being something actually experienced during play.</p><p></p><p>I mean, what fun is there in playing a MacGuyver character, but never <em>actually</em> knowing how your PC got out of a situation? IMO, ingeniously winning at an RPG is a player attribute, not a character one. I guess, when designing the game, the point is to leave what isn't the focus of the game out of the game as best you can. </p><p></p><p>Modern day adventure games can work though. Try something like Spycraft and add in whatever fantasy elements you desire for the setting. </p><p></p><p>Another way I know I like is to use our own real world as a setting. This way, players can use what they really know about our own world and not have to worry about fudging knowledge they don't really know. Then, add in your fantasy element - the unknown world beneath the surface - and let that be the learn-as-you-go game for the players.</p><p></p><p>In the end it depends on what kind of game you want to play and the type of play / adventures that first got you thinking this was a cool idea. I'd let those lead you where you want to go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 4034452, member: 3192"] I'd say D&D is not going to work for you. Lots of the other suggestions might. In most any modern day setting a game needs to deal with the problem of players roleplaying PCs who know things the players never will. This sort of "beyond the scope of the game" knowledge can be fudged, however, and often is by using skills. The downfall unfortunately is a game where players don't use what they know to succeed, but rather an abstract probability system. For example, if you play a modern day lawyer, a "Law" skill allows a GM to duplicate the PCs knowing some important legal information that affects the game without actually having to bring legal knowledge into the game. There are at least two problems with this as far as I can tell. One, this breaks players out of character, but is something of a necessity given the setting/type of knowledge. And two, it removes a players concept, lawyer, from being something actually experienced during play. I mean, what fun is there in playing a MacGuyver character, but never [I]actually[/I] knowing how your PC got out of a situation? IMO, ingeniously winning at an RPG is a player attribute, not a character one. I guess, when designing the game, the point is to leave what isn't the focus of the game out of the game as best you can. Modern day adventure games can work though. Try something like Spycraft and add in whatever fantasy elements you desire for the setting. Another way I know I like is to use our own real world as a setting. This way, players can use what they really know about our own world and not have to worry about fudging knowledge they don't really know. Then, add in your fantasy element - the unknown world beneath the surface - and let that be the learn-as-you-go game for the players. In the end it depends on what kind of game you want to play and the type of play / adventures that first got you thinking this was a cool idea. I'd let those lead you where you want to go. [/QUOTE]
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