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<blockquote data-quote="Blackbrrd" data-source="post: 5943002" data-attributes="member: 63962">Let's take your example of the kobolds hiding on the cliff face. I would probably look at where they were located in relation to where the hobbit is sneaking and let the kobolds get maybe 3-4 rolls.To me, it sounds logical that sneaking past several creatures are harder to sneak by than a single creature. At the same time, it should be easier for the hobbit to notice the hiding kobolds because there are so many of them.So, the encounter might go like this:Hobbit-player: I want to sneak up on that cave, but I will keep my eyes open for dangers.DM: Roll perception (rolls hide for the kobolds)DM: Yeah, you spot 3 kobolds up on the cliffHobbit-player: Sounds scary, I wait a bit to see if there are moreDM: 10 minutes pass, roll again with advantage. (rolls hide for the kobolds)DM: yeah, you spot 4 more kobolds.Hobbit-player: is there any way to the cave mouth that avoids the sight path of most of the kobolds?DM: yeah, there looks to be oneHobbit-player: ok, trying to sneak up nowDM: roll stealth once with advantage and once without. (rolls for 2 of the seen kobolds and 1 of the still hidden ones).....So, here we got to reward the player for some patience and clever thinking, working around the problem of multiple foes. Just using a passive DC set by the creatures skill bonus +10 doesn't accomplish the same thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blackbrrd, post: 5943002, member: 63962"] Let's take your example of the kobolds hiding on the cliff face. I would probably look at where they were located in relation to where the hobbit is sneaking and let the kobolds get maybe 3-4 rolls. To me, it sounds logical that sneaking past several creatures are harder to sneak by than a single creature. At the same time, it should be easier for the hobbit to notice the hiding kobolds because there are so many of them. So, the encounter might go like this: Hobbit-player: I want to sneak up on that cave, but I will keep my eyes open for dangers. DM: Roll perception (rolls hide for the kobolds) DM: Yeah, you spot 3 kobolds up on the cliff Hobbit-player: Sounds scary, I wait a bit to see if there are more DM: 10 minutes pass, roll again with advantage. (rolls hide for the kobolds) DM: yeah, you spot 4 more kobolds. Hobbit-player: is there any way to the cave mouth that avoids the sight path of most of the kobolds? DM: yeah, there looks to be one Hobbit-player: ok, trying to sneak up now DM: roll stealth once with advantage and once without. (rolls for 2 of the seen kobolds and 1 of the still hidden ones). .... So, here we got to reward the player for some patience and clever thinking, working around the problem of multiple foes. Just using a passive DC set by the creatures skill bonus +10 doesn't accomplish the same thing. [/QUOTE]

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