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<blockquote data-quote="lordxaviar" data-source="post: 5578030" data-attributes="member: 56673"><p>yes thats true... and the next statement is correct as well.. but I think its a loss not to have continual darkness... that was the point of the post not</p><p></p><p>the strobe light effect... it might have even been a sage advice answer</p><p> opps possibly not...checked one archive on it and only found this one</p><p></p><p> Question I want to make a continual light wand (by casting the third level cleric spell on a metal rod). In the DMG, under spell explanations, it says, “Darkness spells are the bane of this device....” Does the darkness spell have to be cast on the rod itself in order to negate the light? If so, what would happen-if someone holding the continual light wand (light exposed) walked into an area under a darkness spell? Would the light be cancelled, the darkness be cancelled, or both be negated? Would the wand be negated if a darkness spell is cast in a general area containing the wand, but while it is enclosed so that the light isn’t visible? </p><p></p><p></p><p> Answer Either a Continual Darkness or Dispel Magic spell can negate a Continual Light spell, whether the light had been placed over an area or upon an object. Continual Darkness does not have to be cast on the rod itself in order to ruin the light wand; the darkness negates not only the light of the spell, but also the magic which caused the rod to give off the light in the first place. As long as the light wand is in, or is brought into, the area of effect of the darkness spell, both spells would cancel each other out. The same would be true if the wand were in a lightproof container inside the area of effect: That container is not magic-proof, and it is the magic itself, not just the visible effects of that magic, which is negated. It’s important to understand the difference between a light wand of this type and an item which is actually enchanted to give off light, such as a Wand of Illumination or a Gem of Brightness. When actual magic items are employed to produce magical light, a darkness spell would at best only neutralize the charge(s) currently in use; the item is not rendered unusable as long as other charges remain. For example, Continual Darkness will negate the effect of a Gem of Brightness for only one day — or not at all, if the owner of the item expends charges to offset the darkness. A continual light wand, on the other hand, is no more than a stick with a spell cast on it. When that spell is dispelled, the stick’s light goes out for good (or until another Continual Light is cast upon it). Dispel Magic is effective against a continual light wand, again because it neutralizes the magic of the spell which was applied to the rod. Dispel Magic cannot, as the spell description indicates, weaken or negate the power of a “specially enchanted” item such as the Gem of Brightness. The success of Dispel Magic against a continual light wand or other similar object depends in part on which particular kind of Continual Light was used to manufacture the wand; the dispelling would be more likely to succeed against the magic-user version of Continual Light, since that is a second level spell and the cleric and illusionist versions of the same spell are third level incantations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>from the clerical spell</p><p></p><p>Continual light brought into an area of magical darkness (orvice versa) cancels the darkness so that the otherwise prevailing light conditions exist in the overlapping areas of effect. A direct casting of a continual light spell against a similar or weaker magical darkness cancels both</p><p></p><p>good history of light spells and dnd</p><p><a href="http://www.gmoracle.com/?p=642" target="_blank">http://www.gmoracle.com/?p=642</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lordxaviar, post: 5578030, member: 56673"] yes thats true... and the next statement is correct as well.. but I think its a loss not to have continual darkness... that was the point of the post not the strobe light effect... it might have even been a sage advice answer opps possibly not...checked one archive on it and only found this one Question I want to make a continual light wand (by casting the third level cleric spell on a metal rod). In the DMG, under spell explanations, it says, “Darkness spells are the bane of this device....” Does the darkness spell have to be cast on the rod itself in order to negate the light? If so, what would happen-if someone holding the continual light wand (light exposed) walked into an area under a darkness spell? Would the light be cancelled, the darkness be cancelled, or both be negated? Would the wand be negated if a darkness spell is cast in a general area containing the wand, but while it is enclosed so that the light isn’t visible? Answer Either a Continual Darkness or Dispel Magic spell can negate a Continual Light spell, whether the light had been placed over an area or upon an object. Continual Darkness does not have to be cast on the rod itself in order to ruin the light wand; the darkness negates not only the light of the spell, but also the magic which caused the rod to give off the light in the first place. As long as the light wand is in, or is brought into, the area of effect of the darkness spell, both spells would cancel each other out. The same would be true if the wand were in a lightproof container inside the area of effect: That container is not magic-proof, and it is the magic itself, not just the visible effects of that magic, which is negated. It’s important to understand the difference between a light wand of this type and an item which is actually enchanted to give off light, such as a Wand of Illumination or a Gem of Brightness. When actual magic items are employed to produce magical light, a darkness spell would at best only neutralize the charge(s) currently in use; the item is not rendered unusable as long as other charges remain. For example, Continual Darkness will negate the effect of a Gem of Brightness for only one day — or not at all, if the owner of the item expends charges to offset the darkness. A continual light wand, on the other hand, is no more than a stick with a spell cast on it. When that spell is dispelled, the stick’s light goes out for good (or until another Continual Light is cast upon it). Dispel Magic is effective against a continual light wand, again because it neutralizes the magic of the spell which was applied to the rod. Dispel Magic cannot, as the spell description indicates, weaken or negate the power of a “specially enchanted” item such as the Gem of Brightness. The success of Dispel Magic against a continual light wand or other similar object depends in part on which particular kind of Continual Light was used to manufacture the wand; the dispelling would be more likely to succeed against the magic-user version of Continual Light, since that is a second level spell and the cleric and illusionist versions of the same spell are third level incantations. from the clerical spell Continual light brought into an area of magical darkness (orvice versa) cancels the darkness so that the otherwise prevailing light conditions exist in the overlapping areas of effect. A direct casting of a continual light spell against a similar or weaker magical darkness cancels both good history of light spells and dnd [url]http://www.gmoracle.com/?p=642[/url] [/QUOTE]
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