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<blockquote data-quote="thefutilist" data-source="post: 9855896" data-attributes="member: 7044566"><p>OTHER KIND DICE – BASIC CARDS</p><p></p><p>This was done using the good working outcome set found here:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://lumpley.games/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Good-Working-Outcome-Cards.pdf" target="_blank">https://lumpley.games/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Good-Working-Outcome-Cards.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>Taken from the following blog post.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://lumpley.games/2022/03/14/otherkind-dice/[/URL]</p><p></p><p></p><p>We used: goal, secondary goal, you hurt, friend hurt.</p><p></p><p>I said the goal was to get the Obsidian Lotus with the secondary goal of capturing Ansillia. My friend countered with a secondary goal of letting Ansillia go. Which is pretty awesome and the system already doing some work. Although in hindsight we could have brought in the ‘what it costs’ table for that.</p><p></p><p>Technically this gives 48 outcomes although many of those are just how wounded someone is, which may or may not be that impactful. The roll happens after Ansillia’s threat.</p><p></p><p>It turns out the party was bruised and wounded but got the Obsidian Lotus from Ansillia before she fled. Creating the stakes like this makes it easy to split getting Ansillia and the Lotus, which is pretty cool and I’m not sure how easy that would be in other systems.</p><p></p><p>I could go on at length about other kind dice but it’s obvious that it really forces you to carve out the outcome space. This has some interesting consequences though.</p><p></p><p>In one set of results we had Ansillia being captured but the party didn’t get the Lotus. One of the Ahasi warriors made away with it. Given the warriors are under Ansillias control, a dispute now happens between Drenem and Halden about whether to kill Ansillia, which would deanimate the skeleton. This is the type of dispute that could get fatal pretty quickly but it was harder to do using the system. You can just use the goal and cost tables for a whole lot of resolution I guess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thefutilist, post: 9855896, member: 7044566"] OTHER KIND DICE – BASIC CARDS This was done using the good working outcome set found here: [URL]https://lumpley.games/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Good-Working-Outcome-Cards.pdf[/URL] Taken from the following blog post. [URL unfurl="true"]https://lumpley.games/2022/03/14/otherkind-dice/[/URL] We used: goal, secondary goal, you hurt, friend hurt. I said the goal was to get the Obsidian Lotus with the secondary goal of capturing Ansillia. My friend countered with a secondary goal of letting Ansillia go. Which is pretty awesome and the system already doing some work. Although in hindsight we could have brought in the ‘what it costs’ table for that. Technically this gives 48 outcomes although many of those are just how wounded someone is, which may or may not be that impactful. The roll happens after Ansillia’s threat. It turns out the party was bruised and wounded but got the Obsidian Lotus from Ansillia before she fled. Creating the stakes like this makes it easy to split getting Ansillia and the Lotus, which is pretty cool and I’m not sure how easy that would be in other systems. I could go on at length about other kind dice but it’s obvious that it really forces you to carve out the outcome space. This has some interesting consequences though. In one set of results we had Ansillia being captured but the party didn’t get the Lotus. One of the Ahasi warriors made away with it. Given the warriors are under Ansillias control, a dispute now happens between Drenem and Halden about whether to kill Ansillia, which would deanimate the skeleton. This is the type of dispute that could get fatal pretty quickly but it was harder to do using the system. You can just use the goal and cost tables for a whole lot of resolution I guess. [/QUOTE]
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