Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
ShortQuests -- individual adventure modules! An all-new collection of digest-sized D&D adventures designed to plug in to your game.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Control Body and Psions
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3083720" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Precisely. But, if the psicrystal can see the Psion, then enemies can see the psicrystal. Attacking and damaging the psicrystal can force the psicrystal to make a Concentration roll to maintain the Control Body.</p><p></p><p>A simple Fireball or Lightning Bolt could force a Concentration check if the Psicrystal misses its save.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, it is not a small deal for a well designed Psion.</p><p></p><p>Defensive Precognition is practically the only powerful way for a Psion to boost saves (and is another way to boost AC), so knowing that it does not work with Control Body is important.</p><p></p><p>Psions do not have good Fort or Reflex saves, so giving up the only good way to boost saves in order to both fight in combat and manifest at the same time is a balance point.</p><p></p><p>For example, Blindness is a Fort save. So, if a Psion does the Control Body trick, he is more susceptible to a Cleric's Blindness spell than if he had Def Precog up. The Psion is also susceptible to spells like Darkness (which will drop both the Control Body and the Solicit Psicrystal powers since Line of Sight drops).</p><p></p><p>Not only that, it is important to note that the AC of Def Precog does not work with Control Body. So, it forces the Psion to have and use different types of AC powers when using Control Body.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So yes, the Control Body trick can work. But, intelligent opponents who figure out what is happening can disrupt it. This is important for a player of a Psion to know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3083720, member: 2011"] Precisely. But, if the psicrystal can see the Psion, then enemies can see the psicrystal. Attacking and damaging the psicrystal can force the psicrystal to make a Concentration roll to maintain the Control Body. A simple Fireball or Lightning Bolt could force a Concentration check if the Psicrystal misses its save. Actually, it is not a small deal for a well designed Psion. Defensive Precognition is practically the only powerful way for a Psion to boost saves (and is another way to boost AC), so knowing that it does not work with Control Body is important. Psions do not have good Fort or Reflex saves, so giving up the only good way to boost saves in order to both fight in combat and manifest at the same time is a balance point. For example, Blindness is a Fort save. So, if a Psion does the Control Body trick, he is more susceptible to a Cleric's Blindness spell than if he had Def Precog up. The Psion is also susceptible to spells like Darkness (which will drop both the Control Body and the Solicit Psicrystal powers since Line of Sight drops). Not only that, it is important to note that the AC of Def Precog does not work with Control Body. So, it forces the Psion to have and use different types of AC powers when using Control Body. So yes, the Control Body trick can work. But, intelligent opponents who figure out what is happening can disrupt it. This is important for a player of a Psion to know. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Control Body and Psions
Top