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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nish" data-source="post: 258590" data-attributes="member: 145">Read the description of Dominate Person, then read the description of Control Undead. Notice that in the description of Dominate Person it goes on about the subject not performing any obviously self destructive actions, or being able to resist actions that go against its nature. The description of Control Undead is conspicuously silent on this topic, which forces one to come to the conclusion that the designers did not intend any kinds of restriction on the types of commands that may be given to and carried out by the subject of this spell (other than that the commands must be verbal as opposed to telepathic).So theoretically, you could cast this on a vampire, hand it a mallet and a stake, and tell it: "Use that to pound this into your chest", and it would proceed to kill itself. Or how about telling a lich to cast Disintegrate on its phylactery? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Of course this, like all else, is subject to DM nerfi.. er, interpretation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />However, this spell most certainly Does Not Suck. Although it appears to designed more for characters who are having to fight undead as opposed to evil necromancers building a legion of undead (clerics are better at the whole undead thing anyway).</blockquote>

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