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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sundragon2012" data-source="post: 2406309" data-attributes="member: 7624">Hi,I am beginning a new 3.5 campaign, own the epic level handbook and must admit that some of it I like, some of it seems a bit over-the-top, more like superhero stuff than the fantasy I favor (Robert E. Howard, Tolkien, George R.R. Martin, Salvatore, Hickman and Weis, etc.). In other words, I am a old school 1E/2E DM and I was able to have characters in my group of 25+lvl and using the old Player's Option (2E)  rules I was able to effortlessly run my game. Now I am not asking whether or not anyone like, hates, prefers, etc. 2E I am just expressing that I had no trouble running a campaign for 2nd, 10th, 17th, 25th+lvl characters with that system.Plus I have been reading the epic board on wizards.com from time to time and see some of the IMO nightmarish/crazy problems encountered by DMs in such campaigns. I wanted to ask whether or not there was an alternative high level system outside of that presented in the Epic Level Handbook whether created by WoTC or a 3rd party?Maybe some of you have some epic house rules that allow for great skill and power but at the same time allow for more of a mortal feel to the game even at very high levels. Anyone have any ideas?Thanks,Chris</blockquote>