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Message: <blockquote data-quote="On Puget Sound" data-source="post: 5618905" data-attributes="member: 68988">Roles that other game systems have that aren't reflected in the four:Decker, from Shadowrun: a Dream Warrior, who encounters and engages enemies in a whole separate environment (the dream world).  It worked poorly in shadowrun because 4/5 of the party members were reduced to spectators, but maybe a Quori/ Kalashtar based campaign could find a way to make it work.Plotter, from Vampire: the Masquerade:  Taking the "face" to an actual combat-like level, where you sneer at an enemy and he drops his sword, or (at paragon) drop a rumor and it starts a revolution.  Come to think of it, this is just like the first example, creating a new battlefield especially for this new role to fight in.Noble/Patron, from Traveller: Your shtick is simply having and managing resources.  Another extreme version of the face, and a role that many characters of any class fall into as a secondary role, depending on the campaign.  Not every group can keep this role interesting.  If this were a separate class I would give it combat powers somewhere between a summoner and a warlord - he fights using the minions and bodyguards he brings along, and has powers to enhance and inspire them.  Should break the action economy rules.Summoner/ necromancer, various including D&Dv1-3.5:  This could actually be a legitimate role for groups who don't mind dumping the action economy rule entirely.  Instinctive and intrinsic actions for companions are already heading that way.  I know there was a reason D&D4e did not include them... but I miss them.Shapechanger/ rolechanger: not  a new role, but might make an interesting class.  Something that can change forms and change roles between, and maybe during, encounters.</blockquote>

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