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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hedgemage" data-source="post: 197028" data-attributes="member: 403">I have no problems with powergamers who can bring together diverse abilities into something surprising.I do have problems with people who do this with no regards for reason or character.  People who pick a group of unrelated classes just to get the right mixture of abilities, yet have no good backstory as to why they picked those classes, are annoying.Powergamers can take a character and develop them as they play, adapting the character's powers to fit the game as well as the PC's personality.Munchkins usually have a pre-made plan, or even a pre-made character that doesn't jive with the campaign, and often conflict with it.  They come to a game with their minds already made up about what their character will be, and expect the game to change to fit them.Munchkins are powergamers who can't roleplay.</blockquote>