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[Controversy] So what's a munchkin to you?
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<blockquote data-quote="Terwox" data-source="post: 197259" data-attributes="member: 1044"><p>Well, the main thing I think of when I say munchkin is somebody who dominates the game in their favor. To me, the most munchkiny is whichever ruins the fun for other players the most -- and to me, that's the rules lawyer. Usually.</p><p></p><p>Having a powergamer outclass all the other players, when the other players don't really want vastly different power levels between players, that's munchkiny. If all the players are making powerful characters, well, it can be great fun to play/DM powerful character games.</p><p></p><p>Cheating... I've played in a few games where people cheated because they thought unfair things were happening. I don't like it at all, but, honestly, it doesn't ruin the fun for other players as much. It's still quite annoying, but it seems to ruin the fun for others less than other ills. So, the least of evils, to me.</p><p></p><p>Metagaming is dumb. I've never really seen much of this, as usually if someone unduly metagames, people just look at them funny. </p><p></p><p>But rules lawyers... yikes. I've spent a few hours too many listening to whining about some dumb rule. Thankfully, this mainly just depends on the dm and the players, and I haven't seen it in quite some time.</p><p></p><p>However... another thing that somewhat says munchkin to me is drama twinks. Now, there's nothing wrong with making a cool character and really getting into it -- this even isn't that bad if the character is the limelight of most of the story -- as long as all the other players are fine with it. And, a lot of times, that just isn't the case. This seems to be more of the case in white wolf, and I hear it's worse in larps.</p><p></p><p>But, to me, munchkins are players who have fun with the game, at the expense of the fun of other players. It doesn't have to be intentional. Twinks are players who make characters out to be "more better" -- whether in the limelight by combat, or roleplay, and they must be better to the extent that it causes a gap within the group. This also doesn't have to be intentional, and whether the players mean to or not, I've had it help split a group because of limelight hogging. (And, of course, other differences, as a minor difference like that would not have still proved irreconciable.)</p><p></p><p>And, best of all, my terminology gets used, because no one else I know frequents message boards, which means people pick up my jargon, and there's no confusing terms. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terwox, post: 197259, member: 1044"] Well, the main thing I think of when I say munchkin is somebody who dominates the game in their favor. To me, the most munchkiny is whichever ruins the fun for other players the most -- and to me, that's the rules lawyer. Usually. Having a powergamer outclass all the other players, when the other players don't really want vastly different power levels between players, that's munchkiny. If all the players are making powerful characters, well, it can be great fun to play/DM powerful character games. Cheating... I've played in a few games where people cheated because they thought unfair things were happening. I don't like it at all, but, honestly, it doesn't ruin the fun for other players as much. It's still quite annoying, but it seems to ruin the fun for others less than other ills. So, the least of evils, to me. Metagaming is dumb. I've never really seen much of this, as usually if someone unduly metagames, people just look at them funny. But rules lawyers... yikes. I've spent a few hours too many listening to whining about some dumb rule. Thankfully, this mainly just depends on the dm and the players, and I haven't seen it in quite some time. However... another thing that somewhat says munchkin to me is drama twinks. Now, there's nothing wrong with making a cool character and really getting into it -- this even isn't that bad if the character is the limelight of most of the story -- as long as all the other players are fine with it. And, a lot of times, that just isn't the case. This seems to be more of the case in white wolf, and I hear it's worse in larps. But, to me, munchkins are players who have fun with the game, at the expense of the fun of other players. It doesn't have to be intentional. Twinks are players who make characters out to be "more better" -- whether in the limelight by combat, or roleplay, and they must be better to the extent that it causes a gap within the group. This also doesn't have to be intentional, and whether the players mean to or not, I've had it help split a group because of limelight hogging. (And, of course, other differences, as a minor difference like that would not have still proved irreconciable.) And, best of all, my terminology gets used, because no one else I know frequents message boards, which means people pick up my jargon, and there's no confusing terms. :D [/QUOTE]
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