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[Controversy] So what's a munchkin to you?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jurkunaite" data-source="post: 197880" data-attributes="member: 4624"><p>Munchkin has been overused as an insult, yes, undoubtedly, like all insults. However I am with the camp who suggest that a true munchkin ruins the fun for others by manipulating the rules. Using the rules to powergame is OK if you are OK with that. What people have suggested on this thread goes *beyond* acceptable styles of play and into the realms of serious game disruption.</p><p></p><p>I played with two blokes who were good players but always used katanas and elven mail, regardless of what they were playing (and obviously it follows that they usually played characters who could use those weapons). They were bordering on the boring. I didn't give up gaming with them (and my characters were usually laughably wretched anyway) because they didn't ruin my fun. So they weren't really munchkins, just boring players. Munchkinism is always going to be subjective. Some of the products put out for FR (the allegedly favourite setting of munchkins) have been overheavy on the temptations - spellfire for one and the too-common use of drow PCs, a vogue started by Drizzt and only exacerbated by his inclusion in Baldur's Gate; but then again the setting is supposed to be magic-rich and the possibilities for a good DM in terms of political games that can be played there far outweigh the "sick" characters that roam Faerun. </p><p></p><p>As regards moral judgements, sometimes people can be too tolerant. But such a subjective idea as munchkinism has to be reduced only to real abuse and not just "I don't like"...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jurkunaite, post: 197880, member: 4624"] Munchkin has been overused as an insult, yes, undoubtedly, like all insults. However I am with the camp who suggest that a true munchkin ruins the fun for others by manipulating the rules. Using the rules to powergame is OK if you are OK with that. What people have suggested on this thread goes *beyond* acceptable styles of play and into the realms of serious game disruption. I played with two blokes who were good players but always used katanas and elven mail, regardless of what they were playing (and obviously it follows that they usually played characters who could use those weapons). They were bordering on the boring. I didn't give up gaming with them (and my characters were usually laughably wretched anyway) because they didn't ruin my fun. So they weren't really munchkins, just boring players. Munchkinism is always going to be subjective. Some of the products put out for FR (the allegedly favourite setting of munchkins) have been overheavy on the temptations - spellfire for one and the too-common use of drow PCs, a vogue started by Drizzt and only exacerbated by his inclusion in Baldur's Gate; but then again the setting is supposed to be magic-rich and the possibilities for a good DM in terms of political games that can be played there far outweigh the "sick" characters that roam Faerun. As regards moral judgements, sometimes people can be too tolerant. But such a subjective idea as munchkinism has to be reduced only to real abuse and not just "I don't like"... [/QUOTE]
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