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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7177662" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>As Horwath suggested, I would have the PCs roll Insight against Shoalar's Deception when he decides to attack. Any who fail are surprised (and thus don't get to act in the first round when Shoalar casts the spell even if they rolled higher initiative than him.)</p><p></p><p>The PCs who aren't surprised and beat Shoalar on initiative are reacting to him <em>starting </em>the incantation to cast the spell, not to the spell going off.</p><p>Remember that a lot of actions aren't actually instantaneous. We just resolve them at a single point in time for convenience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7177662, member: 6802951"] As Horwath suggested, I would have the PCs roll Insight against Shoalar's Deception when he decides to attack. Any who fail are surprised (and thus don't get to act in the first round when Shoalar casts the spell even if they rolled higher initiative than him.) The PCs who aren't surprised and beat Shoalar on initiative are reacting to him [I]starting [/I]the incantation to cast the spell, not to the spell going off. Remember that a lot of actions aren't actually instantaneous. We just resolve them at a single point in time for convenience. [/QUOTE]
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