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<blockquote data-quote="wally" data-source="post: 7347647" data-attributes="member: 3578">So, a skill that only goes up with proficiency in 5e, or with stat increases, is no different than skills in PF that you can just add points to? It would seem that the +5 from Dex would be far more important in 5e than in PF. It seems you do not agree with this, but it has been our experience. So, just so I understand your point as it seems different than our experience, you are saying that a 10th level fighter in Pathfinder with a +1 sword should be hitting and damaging with the same statistical successes as a 10th level fighter in 5e with a +1 sword? Again, that has not been our experiences.This seems a little strange as an argument as the scaling for the two systems is widely different. A 5e FTR with that +7 will not be fighting the same ACs as the PF FTR with the +21.It isn't that it is providing a +1, it is how far a +1 to anything goes in 5e as opposed to PF. In our experience, a +1 seems to go a lot farther in 5e than in PF, but it seems that is not the case for you.Sure, but there are plenty of DMs out there that want rules or nothing will be done. I am just trying to help out those as well as more novice DMs who want to move beyond 5e. That's all.-Wally</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wally, post: 7347647, member: 3578"] So, a skill that only goes up with proficiency in 5e, or with stat increases, is no different than skills in PF that you can just add points to? It would seem that the +5 from Dex would be far more important in 5e than in PF. It seems you do not agree with this, but it has been our experience. So, just so I understand your point as it seems different than our experience, you are saying that a 10th level fighter in Pathfinder with a +1 sword should be hitting and damaging with the same statistical successes as a 10th level fighter in 5e with a +1 sword? Again, that has not been our experiences. This seems a little strange as an argument as the scaling for the two systems is widely different. A 5e FTR with that +7 will not be fighting the same ACs as the PF FTR with the +21. It isn't that it is providing a +1, it is how far a +1 to anything goes in 5e as opposed to PF. In our experience, a +1 seems to go a lot farther in 5e than in PF, but it seems that is not the case for you. Sure, but there are plenty of DMs out there that want rules or nothing will be done. I am just trying to help out those as well as more novice DMs who want to move beyond 5e. That's all. -Wally [/QUOTE]

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