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<blockquote data-quote="SlyFlourish" data-source="post: 9593926" data-attributes="member: 54840"><p>There are a couple of good analyses:</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://tomedunn.github.io/the-finished-book/monsters/monster-manual-2024/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.blogofholding.com/?p=8469[/URL]</p><p></p><p>My easy rule of thumb is:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AC / DC = 12 + 1/2 CR</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">HP = 15 to 20 x CR</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Attack / Proficient Save = 3 + 1/2 CR</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Damage per Round = 7 x CR</li> </ul><p></p><p>That gets you pretty close for a quick improvised monster and they're all numbers you can generally keep in your head.</p><p></p><p>Scott Fitzgerald Gray, Teos Abadia, and I also came up with a monster stats by CR table after analyzing D&D 2014 and many of the monster books that came afterwards and bounced it against Paul Hughes's work for Level Up Advanced 5e. We published it in Forge of Foes and you can find it in our free and CC-released reference document here:</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://slyflourish.com/lazy_5e_monster_building_resource_document.html#buildingaquickmonster[/URL]</p><p></p><p>We didn't have D&D 2025 monster stats then but it's close enough for an improvised monster that I wouldn't worry about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SlyFlourish, post: 9593926, member: 54840"] There are a couple of good analyses: [URL unfurl="true"]https://tomedunn.github.io/the-finished-book/monsters/monster-manual-2024/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.blogofholding.com/?p=8469[/URL] My easy rule of thumb is: [LIST] [*]AC / DC = 12 + 1/2 CR [*]HP = 15 to 20 x CR [*]Attack / Proficient Save = 3 + 1/2 CR [*]Damage per Round = 7 x CR [/LIST] That gets you pretty close for a quick improvised monster and they're all numbers you can generally keep in your head. Scott Fitzgerald Gray, Teos Abadia, and I also came up with a monster stats by CR table after analyzing D&D 2014 and many of the monster books that came afterwards and bounced it against Paul Hughes's work for Level Up Advanced 5e. We published it in Forge of Foes and you can find it in our free and CC-released reference document here: [URL unfurl="true"]https://slyflourish.com/lazy_5e_monster_building_resource_document.html#buildingaquickmonster[/URL] We didn't have D&D 2025 monster stats then but it's close enough for an improvised monster that I wouldn't worry about it. [/QUOTE]
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