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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mps42" data-source="post: 4796339" data-attributes="member: 9571">At the time the Elves and Dwarves "left the humans to war", it was men against men and neither wanted to become the "common enemy". Self preservation more than anything else. Elves (now) had access to the feywild and dwarves didn't need much more than they could provide on their own. Elves yes to a lesser degree and Dwarves not so much."The war of men is over. The war for [middle earth] has just begun." Seriously though, They have been separated long enough that they no longer really know what is happening outside their own lands. To destroy the world of men and remake it as their own paradise. This one I haven't quite figured out yet. Maybe the archmage is tapping into some elemental force that isn't so much "generating" cold as "sucking the heat out"... The answer to the second question is both. The giants gave them an ultimatum to help and be part of the new reign or be wiped off the face of the earth with the rest of the "lesser creatures" The Republic of Juhan, until recently, has been keeping to themselves and advancing their technology. If Nessra is 12th century, Juhan is 16th. They are have crude steam tech, Steel instead of iron, etc.Lessee, Politically: Juhan has advanced from Monarchy to a multi-body republic (most of whom have been bought by criminals), they have a few diplomats but most of them are involved in trade talks with other nations. Nessra is largely considered a cultural and technological backwater that nobody really has paid any attention to for many years.Not sure what you mean by socially or metaphysically.He was one of the old kingdoms staunchest supporters and (to the characters) the fact that he did not come to council is troubling to say the least. As far as the plot goes, he's a dingus, used to introduce the overall plot of the campaign, a few minor players and hint at the major players. Nessra has no really powerful wizards left. The really powerful were long ago killed in the war, along with most of the "heroes". There are a few mouldering remains dotted around the landscape, stumps of wizards towers, etc. As the campaign starts, no one knows what is causing the cold, only that they need to find out and quickly.Currently, there are established "travel ports" (teleportation circles) to the city of Lind on the sea which has the major remaining library and the town of Denton on the southern border (Juhan would not permit teleportation into their territory).Nessra is technologically inferior to all of the nations they have tried to trade with, primarily iron weapons, etc.Once it is discovered that Frost giants are involved, the PC's need to recover the lost level of magic needed to create items of power, find them or buy them. The also need to work with Prince Lenric to establish a reasonable fighting force, hopefully including elves and dwarves, to hold off the advancing Orc horde while they then go "behind enemy lines" to deal with the source of the problem: the Giants and their arcane device.Not so much "Come save us" as "Come help us save everyone". They would requesting aid because there are not enough healthy men left to field an army large enough to even fight a delaying action against the Orcs and Goblins. Also, the Elvish nations are reputed to have many and great magical resources no longer available to men.EVERYTHING helps. All this made me think about this stuff and help solidify some of it. I appreciate everyone who has looked at this thread and al of those who've replied.</blockquote>

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