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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 4263495" data-attributes="member: 19857">Meanwhile, my current group has decided that our campaign is pretty much impossible to convert right now because 3 of the five characters are a Druid (whose concept is centered on shapeshifting), a Monk, and a Barbarian.  The Sorcerer/Rogue would probably be easy to convert - other than the "reality shift" that would turn him from a hopelessly incompetent character into a fairly competent one under 4e <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> - and the Cleric could move over directly.  We might even be able to tweak up a Fighter to get a decent "in spirit" conversion of the Barbarian.  But in the end we'd have to probably write up at least 2 new classes to move over - 2 classes that will probably be showing up "officially" within the next year anyway, I might add - and we've decided it isn't worth it.(Also - the tactics of combat are different enough that as a DM I want to start at level 1 for my first campaign anyway - this is the first new edition of D&D that I've seen since I started playing the game in the 80's that makes me think I want to start from the "ground up" to actually learn the game, rather than converting an old campaign over.)Eh.  I recall this question coming up on the podcasts and Dave Noonan pretty much gave the exact spiel you give above - you can do it if you don't expect to have a mathematical conversion and you worry about carrying the characters over "in spirit" instead of directly in form.  I think I've seen similar postings from mearls and from keith baker, IIRC.  IMO, I think they're right to set low expectations for this - any party made up of even vaguely "nonstandard" core classed characters is going to be tough to convert right out the gate - like I said, even my party with classes entirely from the 3e core rulebook would be more trouble to convert than it's really worth, so I can't imagine what it would be like if I were contemplating switching a party over that contained a Ninja, or a Favored Soul, or a Swashbuckler or any other of the splatclasses.  Better to lower expectations and let the lucky few who are easily able to make the conversion be pleasantly surprised than to raise expectations and have a larger chunk of gamers angry because they were "promised" something that wasn't delivered.</blockquote>

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