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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 4340962" data-attributes="member: 20323">I made a post <a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=16225443&postcount=87" target="_blank">over here</a> about 4e Al-Qadim.I'd follow the DMG's advice about running a swashbuckling game and give PCs a bonus to their defense (+1/5 levels) instead of heavy armor.After looking over the kits, I realized a few things:* Holy Slayers could be their own class (divine striker)* Sha'ir fits as a warlock, though a new pact would be needed (perhaps one that doesn't involve killing your foe?)* Rogues get a lot of kits in Al-Qadim, so I'd play up their differences with variant features/builds/available skills* I'd save Rawun (bard), Kahin (druid), and Mystic (shaman?) for when those classes come out in PHB2.CLERICI like Cryptos' "Channel Divinity" feats to differentiate Al-Qadim clerics, those are very evocative, though I wonder if they could provide a more interesting benefit than a bonus to skills. You might consider making up some tweaks to class feature/new power for the hakima. The old 2e hakima didn't have any combat capability - I'd instead design her as a cleric variant.FIGHTER*AskarMercenary BarbarianPALADIN*FarisRANGER*CorsairDesert RiderROGUESa'luk (Trickster Rogue build)Barber (Trickster Rogue build)Beggar-thief (Trickster Rogue build)matrud (Brawny Rogue build)Merchant-rogue (Trickster Rogue build)WARLOCKSha'irWARLORD*Mamluk*any of these classes could be a desert rider, or even a corsair under the right circumstancesWIZARDAjamiElemental MageSorcerer---------------------------------Here's how a 4e Al-Qadim kit might look....BARBER (Rogue)Build: Trickster RogueClass Skills: Bluff, Diplomacy, Heal, History, Insight, Intimidate, Perception, Stealth, Streetwise, ThieverySuggested Feats: ((make up some new ones)) Grooming, Ear to the Ground, FascinateExploit Advantage (Alternate Rogue Class Feature)Replaces: Rogue Weapon TalentWhen you have combat advantage increase your weapon damage die one size. Against a flanked foe you gain +1 attack.p.s. to shamelessly promote my book, you might check out Tales of the Caliphate Nights for True20. Lots of good ideas in there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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