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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6518415" data-attributes="member: 57383">The templates are in the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?66577-Creature-Catalog-new-3-5-conversions/page36" target="_blank">Creature Catalog new 3.5 conversions</a> thread somewhere.Ah, here they are - there's six of them, starting with the <a href="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?POSTs" target="_blank">Vampire Lord</a>.Hmm, reading them again the Imagine Magazine version of the greater vampire has a lot of special abilities based on being disgusting-and-rotting that don't seem &quot;right&quot; for some kinds of vampires.Maybe some other Vampire Lord advanced template would suit you better. Like the Denizens of Dread approach, which basically just increases some racial bonuses.No, two CR 7 monsters are an EL 9 encounter, not EL 5. At least according to the table on page 49 of the Dungeon Master's Guide.Oh, but all is not lost. It seems I misremembered the table with my earlier guesstimates for the &quot;spider packs&quot;. For some reason I was thinking it was +1 EL per doubling of the number when in fact it is +2.&nbsp;According to the DMG, it's actually:d6+1 spider swarms (CR 1 =&gt; EL 2-6), 1d4+1 Large Monstrous Spiders (CR 2 =&gt; EL 2-7), 1d3 Large Monstrous Scorpions (CR 3 =&gt; EL 3-6), or a pack of 3d6 Medium Monstrous Spiders (CR 1 =&gt; EL 3-9?)Which actually does overlap with the EL 7 of a single Drider.Come to think of it, that makes a lot more sense than those earlier numbers. Five Large Spiders or over a dozen Monstrous Spiders are quite a nasty encounter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6518415, member: 57383"] The templates are in the [B][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?66577-Creature-Catalog-new-3-5-conversions/page36"]Creature Catalog new 3.5 conversions[/URL][/B] thread somewhere. Ah, here they are - there's six of them, starting with the [URL="https://www.enworld.org/index.php?POSTs"][B]Vampire Lord[/B][/URL]. Hmm, reading them again the [I]Imagine Magazine[/I] version of the greater vampire has a lot of special abilities based on being disgusting-and-rotting that don't seem "right" for some kinds of vampires. Maybe some other Vampire Lord advanced template would suit you better. Like the Denizens of Dread approach, which basically just increases some racial bonuses. No, two CR 7 monsters are an EL 9 encounter, not EL 5. At least according to the table on page 49 of the [I]Dungeon Master's Guide[/I]. Oh, but all is not lost. It seems I misremembered the table with my earlier guesstimates for the "spider packs". For some reason I was thinking it was +1 EL per doubling of the number when in fact it is +2. According to the [I]DMG[/I], it's actually: d6+1 spider swarms (CR 1 => EL 2-6), 1d4+1 Large Monstrous Spiders (CR 2 => EL 2-7), 1d3 Large Monstrous Scorpions (CR 3 => EL 3-6), or a pack of 3d6 Medium Monstrous Spiders (CR 1 => EL 3-9?) Which actually [I]does[/I] overlap with the EL 7 of a single Drider. Come to think of it, that makes a lot more sense than those earlier numbers. Five Large Spiders or over a dozen Monstrous Spiders are quite a nasty encounter. [/QUOTE]

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