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<blockquote data-quote="kevin_video" data-source="post: 6526215" data-attributes="member: 85066">Should probably ignore the standard as this is anything but. The dwarven vampire does STR damage and the elf does CHA, and this is directly from Denizens, and this is from their slams. The elf doesn't have blood drain or fangs, and drow are dark elves, so this makes sense. Dwarves, gnomes, and human vampires have this, but not elves. The other variants either gave you a disease or you had to make a Will save to not be controlled. The drow doing CON makes sense. If blood drain is linked specifically to the spider form, that makes sense.This is exactly right. I agree that they messed up. But yes, that's supposed to be their short sword and dagger. It's the same write up in the adventures. In one, the vampire has a dagger of wounding and a +1 adamantine short sword.Could make it do 1d6+X damage which it heals back, and also 1d3 CON on top of that.As I mentioned above, seeing it be linked specifically to the spider form is fine. The humanoid, not so much. I looked into the &quot;fluids&quot; of the drow vampire draining. It's not just blood that they drain. Their touch is the equivalent to a desiccating touch. It's blood AND water that they take.And while it doesn't say that drow can't, it does say that elves can't. I like that they're different. They're the only ones not cursed. It's a right of passage by their deity. It's a blessing for them, but only if they take the form of their god. That's cool, and specific.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kevin_video, post: 6526215, member: 85066"] Should probably ignore the standard as this is anything but. The dwarven vampire does STR damage and the elf does CHA, and this is directly from Denizens, and this is from their slams. The elf doesn't have blood drain or fangs, and drow are dark elves, so this makes sense. Dwarves, gnomes, and human vampires have this, but not elves. The other variants either gave you a disease or you had to make a Will save to not be controlled. The drow doing CON makes sense. If blood drain is linked specifically to the spider form, that makes sense. This is exactly right. I agree that they messed up. But yes, that's supposed to be their short sword and dagger. It's the same write up in the adventures. In one, the vampire has a dagger of wounding and a +1 adamantine short sword. Could make it do 1d6+X damage which it heals back, and also 1d3 CON on top of that. As I mentioned above, seeing it be linked specifically to the spider form is fine. The humanoid, not so much. I looked into the "fluids" of the drow vampire draining. It's not just blood that they drain. Their touch is the equivalent to a desiccating touch. It's blood AND water that they take. And while it doesn't say that drow can't, it does say that elves can't. I like that they're different. They're the only ones not cursed. It's a right of passage by their deity. It's a blessing for them, but only if they take the form of their god. That's cool, and specific. [/QUOTE]

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