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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6705018" data-attributes="member: 57383">Yeah, that might work better.How's this:AbilitiesA guardian juggernaut uses the base creature's ability scores plus the following adjustments. Its Strength increases by a modifier for the base construct (+X for stone, +Y for winged or wooden, +Z for wicker) plus a size bonus as given in the Juggernaut Size Adjustment Table (+16 for a Huge juggernaut piloted by a Medium creature). Its Dexterity decreases by a modifier for the base construct (-4 for&nbsp; stone, -2 for wooden and wicker, or +0 for winged). A guardian&nbsp; juggernaut has no Constitution score, being a construct. A guardian&nbsp; juggernaut has the Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma of the base&nbsp; creature.Juggernaut Size Adjustment Table*[TABLE=&quot;class: cms_table_cms_table&quot;] [TR] [TD]Creature[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Construct Size[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][TABLE=&quot;class: cms_table_cms_table, width: 80&quot;] [TR] [TD]Size[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fine[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Diminutive[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tiny[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Small[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Medium[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Large[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Huge[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gargantuan[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [TD][TABLE=&quot;class: cms_table_cms_table, width: 400&quot;] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Medium[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Large[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Huge**[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Gargantuan[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Colossal[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +12[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +20[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +28[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +36[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +44[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +10[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +18[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +26[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +34[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +42[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +8[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +16[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +24[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +32[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +40[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +4[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +12[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +20[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +28[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +36[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +8[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +16[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +24[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +32[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +8[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +16[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +24[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +8[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +16[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]n/a[/TD] [TD=&quot;align: center&quot;]Str +8[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; * To use this table, cross-reference the base creature's size on the left with&nbsp; the base construct's size on the top. The result is the guardian juggernaut's size bonus to Strength.** standard juggernauts are Huge sized so use this column.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Non-Standard Base Constructs: If you wish to use a different&nbsp; base construct from the four standard types, you can determine its&nbsp; ability adjustments as follows.The Juggernaut Strength Table modifier equals the Strength racial bonus&nbsp; the base construct would have if it were Medium size. Use the Changes to&nbsp; Statistics by Size table in the SRD or Monster Manual to determine what this value would be.&nbsp;The juggernaut's Dexterity modifier equals the base construct's racial&nbsp; penalty to Dex, if any. A guardian juggernaut can not have a higher Dex&nbsp; than the base creature, so if the base construct has a racial bonus to&nbsp; Dex it does not apply. Example: An iron golem is Large, with Str 33 and Dex 9. A Medium&nbsp; iron golem would have Str 25, so its Juggernaut Strength Table modifier&nbsp; is +14. The iron golem's Dex 9 gives it a juggernaut Dexterity modifier&nbsp; of -2.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6705018, member: 57383"] Yeah, that might work better. How's this: [SIZE=3][B]Abilities[/B][/SIZE] A guardian juggernaut uses the base creature's ability scores plus the following adjustments. Its Strength increases by a modifier for the base construct (+X for stone, +Y for winged or wooden, +Z for wicker) plus a size bonus as given in the Juggernaut Size Adjustment Table (+16 for a Huge juggernaut piloted by a Medium creature). Its Dexterity decreases by a modifier for the base construct (-4 for stone, -2 for wooden and wicker, or +0 for winged). A guardian juggernaut has no Constitution score, being a construct. A guardian juggernaut has the Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma of the base creature. [B][SIZE=3]Juggernaut Size Adjustment T[B][SIZE=3]able*[/SIZE][/B] [/SIZE][/B][TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table"] [TR] [TD][B]Creature[/B][/TD] [TD="align: center"][B]Construct Size [/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table, width: 80"] [TR] [TD][B]Size[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fine[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Diminutive[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tiny[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Small[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Medium[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Large[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Huge[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gargantuan[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [TD][TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table, width: 400"] [TR] [TD="align: center"]Medium[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Large[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Huge**[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Gargantuan[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Colossal[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]Str +12[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +20[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +28[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +36[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +44[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]Str +10[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +18[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +26[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +34[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +42[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]Str +8[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +16[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +24[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +32[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +40[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]Str +4[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +12[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +20[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +28[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +36[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +8[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +16[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +24[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +32[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +8[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +16[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +24[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +8[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +16[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]n/a[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Str +8[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] * To use this table, cross-reference the base creature's size on the left with the base construct's size on the top. The result is the guardian juggernaut's size bonus to Strength. ** standard juggernauts are Huge sized so use this column.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [B]Non-Standard Base Constructs:[/B] If you wish to use a different base construct from the four standard types, you can determine its ability adjustments as follows. The Juggernaut Strength Table modifier equals the Strength racial bonus the base construct would have if it were Medium size. Use the Changes to Statistics by Size table in the SRD or [I]Monster Manual[/I] to determine what this value would be. The juggernaut's Dexterity modifier equals the base construct's racial penalty to Dex, if any. A guardian juggernaut can not have a higher Dex than the base creature, so if the base construct has a racial bonus to Dex it does not apply. [I]Example:[/I] An iron golem is Large, with Str 33 and Dex 9. A Medium iron golem would have Str 25, so its Juggernaut Strength Table modifier is +14. The iron golem's Dex 9 gives it a juggernaut Dexterity modifier of -2. [/QUOTE]

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