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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6732817" data-attributes="member: 57383">Yes, the wording indicates the juggernaut is attacking with its arms when the pilot wields weapons, and equipped items don't change the juggernaut's appearance, only its abilities.That's problematic though. Besides the question of damage types you brought up, what about all the other properties of equipped weapons. If it is equipped with a longspear, do its arms gain Reach without changing dimensions - how does that work? What if it's equipped with a whip or spiked armour? I guess we don't have to worry about equipped nets if it's unable to be equipped with ranged weapons. Although there's nothing in the 3E rules to prevent the juggernaut to pick up Huge-sized weapons and wield them (including Huge missile weapons and the like), so should we specify it can only use equipped weapons?It seems easier to assume its arms &quot;become&quot; the weapon in question and leave the question of how (or even whether) they alter physically unsaid.In any case, can we agree that the weapons are effectively part of the arm, so it can't put the weapon down or have it lost or damaged by attacks on the arm (like a natural weapon), but only actions targeting the actual weapon in the arm's equipment slot affect the arm's &quot;weapon&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6732817, member: 57383"] Yes, the wording indicates the juggernaut is attacking with its arms when the pilot wields weapons, and equipped items don't change the juggernaut's appearance, only its abilities. That's problematic though. Besides the question of damage types you brought up, what about all the other properties of equipped weapons. If it is equipped with a longspear, do its arms gain Reach without changing dimensions - how does that work? What if it's equipped with a whip or spiked armour? I guess we don't have to worry about equipped nets if it's unable to be equipped with ranged weapons. Although there's nothing in the 3E rules to prevent the juggernaut to pick up Huge-sized weapons and wield them (including Huge missile weapons and the like), so should we specify it can only use equipped weapons? It seems easier to assume its arms "become" the weapon in question and leave the question of how (or even whether) they alter physically unsaid. In any case, can we agree that the weapons are effectively part of the arm, so it can't put the weapon down or have it lost or damaged by attacks on the arm (like a natural weapon), but only actions targeting the actual weapon in the arm's equipment slot affect the arm's "weapon". [/QUOTE]

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