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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5129770" data-attributes="member: 57383">The special qualities look OK, but I'm still uncertain about the NA bonus. Perhaps we should decide on a CR to aim for and then figure what AC would best fit that?Glancing in the Epic Monsters SRD for comparisons we've got the Brachyurus at 38HD, Large and +17 NA (which argues that +15 is about right), or the Behemoth Gorilla at 21 HD, Huge and +22 NA (which argues we want its NA higher). Since the Ikuya has 3 more HD than the Behemoth Gorilla, and a SRD Polar Bear has 2 more NA than an Ape, how about giving the Ikuya 2 more NA than a Behemoth Gorilla, for +24 natural?Hmm, the Behemoth Gorilla is also a Huge Outsider (Extraplanar) - maybe that explains why it is so rarely seen - it is a creature of spirit that spends much of its time on other planes?It literally is a god beast!Making it an Outsider would give it a lot more skills points for stalking-and-killing skills such as Intimidate, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Spot and Survival.That also means we wouldn't need to give it "Dire Beast", since outsiders already get all-good saves, and we may want to give it plane shift (self only) spell-like ability (3/day?).Perhaps it can only plane shift into areas that are below zero? May want to make it a (Su) rather than a SLA.Behemoth creatures also have Spell Resistance 30, which I can't help feeling is very tempting...So, I'm suggesting:Huge Outsider (Extraplanar)NA +24Drop "Dire Beast"Add SR30 and "Shift Dimensions":Shift Dimensions (Ex): Three times per day, the Ikuya can take a full round action and move itself from one dimension to another. This acts as a plane shift spell (self-only, caster level equals hit dice), except if the Ikuya uses shift dimensions to enter a material plane it must shift into an area where the temperature is lower than [freezing? X degrees below freezing?].</blockquote>

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