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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6070740" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Hmm, the "or" in "Control of undead can be done by the master itself <span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>or</strong></span> any of its minions" suggests they both can control undead, and the Minions don't need to be in the Master's presence.</p><p></p><p>Checking the adventure, the Minions start out scattered around the tomb, each in its own crypt with a platoon of undead under its command.</p><p></p><p>Here's the relevant passage from <em>The Bane of Llywelyn</em>:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Minions do seem to have an independent existence to the Master, since they are not destroyed if their Master is, but immediately pop back to Hell where they belong.</p><p></p><p>What practical difference would it make to the Minions if they're using their intrinsic power or that of the Master to control undead?</p><p></p><p>Do we just give them rebuke undead (meaning they have a limited no. of uses/day?) or make it a more potent long-term power? If we use rebuke undead and they're channeling their Master's power, wouldn't this cost the Master uses of rebuke?</p><p></p><p>Hmm, after reflection I think I'd go for an "at-will" rebuke-type power and allow the Minions to use the Master's rebuke modifier instead of their own if they're within a certain distance of the boss - maybe long range 400'+40'/HD or just a flat distance, such as 900 feet?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6070740, member: 57383"] Hmm, the "or" in "Control of undead can be done by the master itself [COLOR=#ff0000][B]or[/B][/COLOR] any of its minions" suggests they both can control undead, and the Minions don't need to be in the Master's presence. Checking the adventure, the Minions start out scattered around the tomb, each in its own crypt with a platoon of undead under its command. Here's the relevant passage from [I]The Bane of Llywelyn[/I]: The Minions do seem to have an independent existence to the Master, since they are not destroyed if their Master is, but immediately pop back to Hell where they belong. What practical difference would it make to the Minions if they're using their intrinsic power or that of the Master to control undead? Do we just give them rebuke undead (meaning they have a limited no. of uses/day?) or make it a more potent long-term power? If we use rebuke undead and they're channeling their Master's power, wouldn't this cost the Master uses of rebuke? Hmm, after reflection I think I'd go for an "at-will" rebuke-type power and allow the Minions to use the Master's rebuke modifier instead of their own if they're within a certain distance of the boss - maybe long range 400'+40'/HD or just a flat distance, such as 900 feet? [/QUOTE]
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